How to make text blocks flow properly top to bottom

So, I have a notes page that consist of discrete blocks of texts. I have been diligent to make is such that I can flow from one block to the other in right order that I wanted, but I found that apparently, when more than one block of text gets selected, things get flipped. The order of the blocks of texts are correct and as I intended, but at the beginning and the end block, it apparently treats as if all texts runs from the end to the start. Let me do an example here below.

Imagine you have each of these lines as one block of Microstation text. The order of text selection goes from line 1, to 2, to 3. When you select between A and B, and all the way to between D and E, you will normally get all Bs, Cs, and Ds. 

AAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBB

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

DDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEE

However, current Microstation behavior I am seeing at my station seems like it will select As, Cs, and Es. How can I make it so that my texts flow from the beginning of each block, instead of the end?

  • Will there be an effective way to resolve this problem? Or is it just a Microstation bug

    When I have to do this kind of thing I do it in Word first  and either paste it direct in the text editor  or use paste special and embed it so it lives in the file especially if I'm getting stuck with the indenting.. ( should be easy  in mstn but I never seem to get it perfect like in word).

    Make sure in the  place text  dialog you untick applies all text and you can then have large and small text same fonts helps but its best to use the same font in both word and mstn say eg Arial. When you paste it it should be ONE big text node  not several.. I think that's where your having your  difficulty.. I have done both methods  in this here in image from a pdf (attached) of my dgn  left side  copy paste into text editor and right side embedded paste special..

    I like the paste special  for word, and excel because you can edit it in place and  it lives inside the dgn and  if you send to clients you need only send the dgn.

    PDF

    I  did it  pretty rough  but you can see format is preserved in both ways...

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  • Can't do, I don't control our CAD standards...

  • Actually, I figured out how to do it after sleeping on it a day. 

    If the text goes from bottom line to the top, then let live. I can just use reverse creation sequencing to force correct direction. It worked. Case closed.

  • I think you interpeting me too literally ... try to use ONE big fat text node not several small ones. .that can't possibly be a cad standard infringement.. text is just text as to using word  just use it to type in and  layout then copy paste into  mstn word processor and  change the font again this can't  possibly be  cad stand infringement...  but anyway  if you found a better way please  publish in detail here and show how as lots of us users will benefit from what you found as we all have issues with this kind of thing .. I don't like having to go outside mstn to get it to work... but sometimes you just got to get it out the door by close of business and you can't take  anymore time to figure it out ... one can't always sleep on it right?

    Lorys

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    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • Sure. I mean, the CAD standards guy at the office is super picky and he wanted specific line spacing between those titles and all that. It makes it difficult to conform if I do it with one single node and I understand what you are trying to say there, but it just won't fly because of him. I just got commented by him the other day that I am not following the convention of having the notes above the title block and the numbering section above notes - turned around to find that it was like that during the last revision he did himself. I am not going to argue with him just for the sake of it. Not that I cannot, I just don't want to. 

    In terms of what I did to resolve it, essentially, the text selection always flows by your sequence of creation. So, I typically use copy parallel to copy the sequence I want certain texts to appear in for ease of use for our drawing users (I work with standard drawings, so our drawings are used by a lot of people. I try to make it as user friendly as possible). Initially, I was doing the copy paste starting the from the start of the page, but with the text lines glitching that way, I really just need to start from the end of all the text instead and it will at least, semi work. 

    For example, if these numbers below are text nodes at their proper places,

    _______________________

    |    1             4              7         |

    |    2             5             8         |

    |    3             6             9         |

    ---------------------------------------

    Initially, I was copying parallel 1 -> 9 to the side, and move it into place. What I needed to do then is copy parallel from 9 -> 1. That way, when you select things, at least all the rows will flow properly, like when I select text from say, 2-8, it will flow from the correct rows like it would for a word document, and that's helpful with notes pages.