V8i SS2 - Sheet number automation

I am looking for some ideas for sheet number automation.  We currently do not use paper space models in our sheet drawings.  Most of the data shown in our sheet drawings are from reference files.  We have separate dgn files that contain our border cells, plan border, cross section border, profile border, etc.  The border dgns are referenced in as well.  With only 5 or 6 border dgns for each project, we can edit the type, year, and project no. in those 5 or 6 files that in-turn updates the entire project.

The Type, Year, and Project No. text is edited in the border cell in the border dgn.  They are consistent through out the project.  The Sheet No. is text that is placed in the sheet drawing when created using GeoPak.

The match line text is also placed in the sheet when created using GeoPak.  There are times where this match line text is a cell that contains the information shown.

The "XX" would need to be alphanumeric.  Sheet number examples, 2, 2-1, 2-2, 2B, 2B1, 2B2, 3, 3A, 3B, and so on for other sheets.  If we have to insert a sheet in the middle of other sheets, the trailing sheet numbers would have to be updated.  Small projects are not so much of a problem, it's the larger projects that create issues.  We have some larger projects that have upwards of 1000 sheets in the entire project.  Hence the need for sheet number automation.

I have looked at pen tables to handle this.  That creates a problem.  The string used in the pen table will be shown until it is printed.  The sheet numbers needs to be displayed in the sheet drawing.  Another avenue would be to have the sheet number based off the model name.  That creates a problem as well.  That would be against Cadd Standards.  I've looked at other ways but with no success.

Any ideas and input are welcome.  Thanks in advance!

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  • As support for MicroStation V8i SS2 has now been discontinued it might be worth considering upgrading to the latest CONNECT version which includes the Sheet Index feature. This helps to automate the workflow you are outlining here and might be worth looking at if it is something new that you are looking to implement.

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/b/microstation_blog/posts/like-v8i-you-ll-love-connect---sheet-tracking-and-ordering

    Regards
    Andrew Bell
    Technical Support
    Bentley Systems

  • Now you can BUY of the shelf for  La Solutions K Flexitable to do this or Caddpro from Adam Lambert (Aus)  you can see demo on youtube of Caddpro titleblock manager

    Also Axiom have one but very expensive..

    Lorys: Thanks for your input.  I've seen those pieces of software suggested in other forum posts.  I'll check out the prices and go from there.

    worth considering upgrading to the latest CONNECT version which includes the Sheet Index feature

    Andrew:  Thanks for your input.  I agree it will be worth upgrading to the latest Connect version, but we are tied to V8i until TDOT implements their configuration and makes the switch.  All of our old jobs will stay in V8i so I've got to deal with what I've got.

    Thanks for your responses.

  • FYI V8i ss10 is still supported, but eventually we will all be forced to use CE.. 

    Now fortunately  Flexitable by LA Solutions (UK) and Caddpro still work with both V8i and  CE, so you can use best of both worlds for old and  new work

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

  • V8i ss10 is still supported

    Lorys:  Thanks for the info.  Our firm is stuck with V8i SS2 until the DOT implements ORD.  I would love to be able to upgrade now and utilize the enhanced features that SS10 and even ORD offers.  As it stands right now, it will be July of this year before I can start to utilize ORD, surveys only for now.  I will discuss the application costs of Flexitable and Caddpro with the folks that have the ability to make purchase decisions before I can utilize LA Solutions or CaddPro's applications.  In the mean time, I have quite a few projects that will most likely stay in V8i and not be upgraded to ORD.  Time will tell.  Thanks again.

  • I thought  that ss2 will stop working at the end of this January 2020 and as the select server is being turned off.

    However Caddpro ( and I think Flexitable ) will let you use the same license and updates/upgrades for whatever version you need even connect edition.. v8i its the same tools, vba etc and only  one instal .. there have been some tweaks and extra tools along the way but its still V8i and still works. and he now has the CE version running too..

    Ord is now Connect Edition.. be interested to see how your DoT does upgrade to Ord.

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

  • FlexiTable™

    Now you can buy off the shelf for  LA Solutions has FlexiTable

    Thanks for the citation.  FlexiTable V8i certainly has the capability to read and write tag element data.  FlexiTable can read and write Excel files.  Some people are using FlexiTable to populate title block tags automatically from Excel.

    ss2 will stop working at the end of this January 2020

    Lorys, you need to adjust the settings on your time machine.  It's 2021!

    FlexiTable™ [LA Solutions] will let you use the same license and updates/upgrades for whatever version you need even connect edition

    That's incorrect. 

    Any app developed for MicroStation CONNECT (64-bit) requires substantial development, even when something similar existed in earlier (32-bit) versions of MicroStation.  Purchase of a new license is required for FlexiTable CONNECT Edition.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

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  • FlexiTable™

    Now you can buy off the shelf for  LA Solutions has FlexiTable

    Thanks for the citation.  FlexiTable V8i certainly has the capability to read and write tag element data.  FlexiTable can read and write Excel files.  Some people are using FlexiTable to populate title block tags automatically from Excel.

    ss2 will stop working at the end of this January 2020

    Lorys, you need to adjust the settings on your time machine.  It's 2021!

    FlexiTable™ [LA Solutions] will let you use the same license and updates/upgrades for whatever version you need even connect edition

    That's incorrect. 

    Any app developed for MicroStation CONNECT (64-bit) requires substantial development, even when something similar existed in earlier (32-bit) versions of MicroStation.  Purchase of a new license is required for FlexiTable CONNECT Edition.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

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