Recently my ability to change the Z Origin of text in Properties->Geometry has stopped working. I can adjust other element's elevations just fine, but text no longer works.
This is file specific and also effects new files from seed. Some existing files it works. Other files it won't. I can adjust it just fine in existing problem files with ORD.
What setting got flipped where the ability to change this to 0 broke?
Microstation CE Update 15 - 10.15.02.11
Just to note that this issue is also being investigated in SR # 7001241705.----------------
I have tested this operation with a new DGN file in MicroStation CONNECT Edition (Update 15 ) 10.15.02.11 with some basic text and I am able to adjust all of the Geometry - Origin X,Y,Z values ok.
There is a possibility that either something is wrong with some of your files or there may be issues with the type of text elements in these files. Have some of these files been produced in other Bentley or 3rd party software packages? You mentioned OpenRoads Designer. Have these text elements been produced in this software? If you are saying you've produced new files which are also affected, are you using the seed files that come in the latest version or could they be from an much earlier version?
It would be very helpful if you could provide example design files where we can try to reproduce your issue and possibly see whether there is some wrong with the files or text elements.
FYI You might also like to investigate the use of the new Set Element Elevation tool which was ported from the old Civtools companion application.
RegardsAndrew BellTechnical SupportBentley Systems
I haven't discounted file issues, but that leads into my opening the file in ORD, attempting the same process and having success. It seemed like a program issue and not a file issue. Although it may be a result of ping-ponging between the two programs.
No, the files & text elements have not/were not created in any 3rd party software or ORD. Used the MicroStation seed we create files from daily. And for years, for that matter. Which would mean they were seed files from a much earlier version. I don't understand how that could be a factor. Yet. But creating a new file in MS and have the problem still occur is baffling when it hadn't happened before.
The new Set Element Elevation tool is great, but it blows out the justification of any text. This is why I either change the Z in Properties or go the more tedious route of using Accudraw to 'move' its Z elevation by the inverse. I only use Set Element Elevation for text as a last resort.
Uploaded the file I was working in at the time I posted. Hopefully it can shed some light on things.
Thanks for the example DGN file. I am able to reproduce this issue with the modification of the Geometry of this text in MSCE U15.2. Not sure what is causing this but I did notice that the Z value on these items have a negative 0.000 value. Were these text elements imported or placed in the design file using the XYZText tools or possibly using another custom tool?
I have raised this as a defect to our development team to investigate.
Defect 1128448: Cannot Change Geometry Z Value Of Text In DGN Files
I noticed the -0.000 value as well, but didn't know what it meant w/regard to the elements. I also notice it quite often...
Every bit of text in the example DGN was placed as a normal text element (not text node) in the file. It may or may not have been elevated at some point. It may or may not have been un-elevated at another. The file may or may not have stopped working at some point, in either MS or ORD Connect, leading to this issue.
Follow-up: I recently updated a user from U13 to U15 and the capability to set the Z value of text (but not text nodes) stopped working. This is definitely a program update issue where a new version broke the capabilities of a prior one.
How does this keep happening?