Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)

I have received a model from a client I believe originally drawn in Openbuilding. I have opened this model in Microstation (V8 DGN) part of the model is showing a solid and another part appears to be wire frame. How can I view the wireframe part as a solid. Please spell it out as I am not familiar with Microstation and do not quite follow the way the program works as new to using Microstation. What we are considering doing which might resolve is upgrading the license to Aecosim. Would this resolve or is there steps to view the model in Microstation.
Note 1: When selecting the wireframe part it appears to select the whole wire frame as though it were a solid
Note 2: I am unable to screenshot or share file due to contract confidentiality

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  • Hi William,

    Openbuilding

    It's always best to follow Forum best practices and tell the forum which version of the programs are you using. The solution (if any) isn't always the same.

    Openbuilding by it's name is a Connect Edition version of the program.

    I have opened this model in Microstation (V8 DGN) part of the model is showing a solid and another part appears to be wire frame

    Without knowing anything more, one possible issue is parametric modeling operations were used in Openbuild Connect Edition version.

    Both programs Microstation CE and Openbuilding CE have this capability. This isn't available in V8 so the solid appear as wireframe if they were model using this type of operations.

    Possible solutions:

    1 - On your version use the "Drop" command with "Extended Element" checked to convert them to smart solids.

    2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.

    3 - Ask the client to use the "Drop Element" command with "Application Elements" checked to convert this "wireframe" solids (in fact they should be parametric solids) to smart solids, after that, in V8 version you can see them as solids.

    4 - You can override the display of any element inside Microstation, so in fact you can see one solid filled and another one look a like and as wireframe display. This is controled by "Properties" dialog under Extended \ Display Style.

    Hope this helps and regards

    José

  • Without knowing anything more, one possible issue is parametric modeling operations were used in Openbuild Connect Edition version.

    Model was created using generative design methodology from what I understand. That being said it affects one end (generative modeling). The ends on both sides are solid while the middle piece in middle s appearing wireframe.

    Both programs Microstation CE and Openbuilding CE have this capability. This isn't available in V8 so the solid appear as wireframe if they were model using this type of operations.
    2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.

    Load screen specifies MS CE update 15. Title Bar shows following example: XXXXXX.dgn [2D - V8 DGN] - Microstation

    Note 2: I am unable to screenshot or share file due to contract confidentiality

    also included is zoomed in screenshot (which protects confidentiality) example of the problem showing WF and S

    Possible solutions:

    1 - On your version use the "Drop" command with "Extended Element" checked to convert them to smart solids.

    2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.

    3 - Ask the client to use the "Drop Element" command with "Application Elements" checked to convert this "wireframe" solids (in fact they should be parametric solids) to smart solids, after that, in V8 version you can see them as solids.

    4 - You can override the display of any element inside Microstation, so in fact you can see one solid filled and another one look a like and as wireframe display. This is controled by "Properties" dialog under Extended \ Display Style.

    I will try these solutions and see if it resolves. I am not familiar with the interface or working steps to complete a task though as my background is with Autodesk software.  I have only recently had this installed in order to open up clients drawings 2D & 3D.

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  • Without knowing anything more, one possible issue is parametric modeling operations were used in Openbuild Connect Edition version.

    Model was created using generative design methodology from what I understand. That being said it affects one end (generative modeling). The ends on both sides are solid while the middle piece in middle s appearing wireframe.

    Both programs Microstation CE and Openbuilding CE have this capability. This isn't available in V8 so the solid appear as wireframe if they were model using this type of operations.
    2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.

    Load screen specifies MS CE update 15. Title Bar shows following example: XXXXXX.dgn [2D - V8 DGN] - Microstation

    Note 2: I am unable to screenshot or share file due to contract confidentiality

    also included is zoomed in screenshot (which protects confidentiality) example of the problem showing WF and S

    Possible solutions:

    1 - On your version use the "Drop" command with "Extended Element" checked to convert them to smart solids.

    2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.

    3 - Ask the client to use the "Drop Element" command with "Application Elements" checked to convert this "wireframe" solids (in fact they should be parametric solids) to smart solids, after that, in V8 version you can see them as solids.

    4 - You can override the display of any element inside Microstation, so in fact you can see one solid filled and another one look a like and as wireframe display. This is controled by "Properties" dialog under Extended \ Display Style.

    I will try these solutions and see if it resolves. I am not familiar with the interface or working steps to complete a task though as my background is with Autodesk software.  I have only recently had this installed in order to open up clients drawings 2D & 3D.

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