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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client</link><description>I have received a model from a client I believe originally drawn in Openbuilding. I have opened this model in Microstation (V8 DGN) part of the model is showing a solid and another part appears to be wire frame. How can I view the wireframe part as a</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/660838?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:21:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8e0409c8-b441-4f6f-8cc4-8585c20789de</guid><dc:creator>William Marshall</dc:creator><description>[quote userid="2436" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660796"]here are probably a few things going on here, so there may not be a single, simple solution to your issue.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;See my answers to Jose Pinho above, which may give further insight.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="2436" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660796"]Plain Microstation may not be able to&amp;nbsp;modify&amp;nbsp;design elements created with OpenBuildings, and if it can, it could cause problems to the point of breaking the design.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Not looking to change the origional design. Only add to design with new elements(awaiting requirement if this is required) or convert to other software formats with which I am more knowledgeable.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="2436" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660796"]The &amp;quot;wireframe part&amp;quot; may not be a single element that can be rendered as solid. It is quite possible that it is a collection of single elements grouped together within OB to represent a design feature. If that is the case, you would need to create an actual surface/solid/mesh/etc. that could be displayed the way you want.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Client is using OB and appears fine on their side. The model is linked to Projectwise. Could this be a factor?. They refuse to give us access for confidentiality reasons.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="2436" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660796"]There is an actual forum for OB/AECOsim where people may be better able to answer your question:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum"&gt;https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum&lt;/a&gt;[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;could it be copied there instead to have greater exposure in both places MS &amp;amp; OB/AS for possible solution&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/660836?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:12:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:ea4e87ea-d3e9-4993-aaf5-28efe87c137d</guid><dc:creator>William Marshall</dc:creator><description>[quote userid="56068" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660793"]Without knowing anything more, one possible issue is &lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/GUID-9D8510D1-0694-4E38-86FA-C120B6EC7228.html"&gt;parametric modeling operations&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;were used in Openbuild Connect Edition version.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Model was created using generative design methodology from what I understand. That being&amp;nbsp;said it affects one&amp;nbsp;end (generative modeling). The ends on both sides are solid while the middle piece in middle s appearing wireframe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="56068" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660793"]Both programs Microstation CE and Openbuilding CE have this capability. This isn&amp;#39;t available in V8 so the solid appear as wireframe if they were model using this type of operations.[/quote][quote userid="56068" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660793"]2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Load screen specifies MS CE update 15. Title Bar shows following&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt; example:&lt;/span&gt; XXXXXX.dgn [2D - V8 DGN] - Microstation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="1122916" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client"]Note 2: I am unable to screenshot or share file due to contract confidentiality[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;also included is &lt;strong&gt;zoomed in&lt;/strong&gt; screenshot (which protects confidentiality) example of the problem showing WF and S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;img alt=" " src="/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/273/MS-_2D00_-WFnS.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="56068" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client/660793"]&lt;p&gt;Possible solutions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1 - On your version use the &amp;quot;Drop&amp;quot; command with &amp;quot;&lt;span&gt;Extended &lt;/span&gt;Element&amp;quot; checked to convert them to smart solids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3 - Ask the client to u&lt;span&gt;se the &amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/GroupsDropElement.html"&gt;&lt;span&gt;D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/GroupsDropElement.html"&gt;rop Element&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; command with &amp;quot;Application Elements&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot; checked to convert this &amp;quot;wireframe&amp;quot; solids (in fact they should be parametric solids) to smart solids, after that, in V8 version you can see them as solids.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4 - You can override the display of any element inside Microstation, so in fact you can see one solid filled and another one look a like and as wireframe display. This is controled by &amp;quot;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/PropertiesDialog.html"&gt;Properties&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; dialog under Extended \ Display Style.&lt;/p&gt;[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I will try these solutions and see if it resolves. I am not familiar&amp;nbsp;with the interface or working steps to complete a task though as my background is with Autodesk software.&amp;nbsp; I have only recently had this installed in order to open up clients drawings 2D &amp;amp; 3D.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/660830?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:40:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:17d36241-9c85-4f43-9faf-a07e551a6c62</guid><dc:creator>Jan Šlegr</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi William,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in my opinion, without sharing an example, it&amp;#39;s impossible to analyze the issue, because parts (cells) from OBD are often complex and can consists from different elements in varying structure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Jan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/660796?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 13:22:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8ef13f63-d379-4ccd-9d2f-42ab9a83ff49</guid><dc:creator>MaryB</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;There are probably a few things going on here, so there may not be a single, simple solution to your issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plain Microstation may not be able to&amp;nbsp;modify&amp;nbsp;design elements created with OpenBuildings, and if it can, it could cause problems to the point of breaking the design. I am not familiar with OpenBuidlings, but I assume that it is similar to OpenRoads - the design is saved into the actual elements themselves as part of a comprehensive design model.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The &amp;quot;wireframe part&amp;quot; may not be a single element that can be rendered as solid. It is quite possible that it is a collection of single elements grouped together within OB to represent a design feature. If that is the case, you would need to create an actual surface/solid/mesh/etc. that could be displayed the way you want.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is an actual forum for OB/AECOsim where people may be better able to answer your question:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum"&gt;https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can actually Move this post over to there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Part of Model solid part of model wireframe (received from client)</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/660793?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 13:16:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:404cd407-17d5-4c55-9b5c-5b3384ce6d79</guid><dc:creator>Jose Pinho</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi William,&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="1122916" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client"]Openbuilding[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;It&amp;#39;s always best to follow&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/87312/read-first-microstation-forum-best-practices"&gt;Forum best practices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;and tell the forum which version of the programs are you using. The solution (if any) isn&amp;#39;t always the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Openbuilding by it&amp;#39;s name is a Connect Edition version of the program.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="1122916" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/216735/part-of-model-solid-part-of-model-wireframe-received-from-client"]I have opened this model in Microstation (V8 DGN) part of the model is showing a solid and another part appears to be wire frame[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Without knowing anything more, one possible issue is &lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/GUID-9D8510D1-0694-4E38-86FA-C120B6EC7228.html"&gt;parametric modeling operations&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;were used in Openbuild Connect Edition version.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both programs Microstation CE and Openbuilding CE have this capability. This isn&amp;#39;t available in V8 so the solid appear as wireframe if they were model using this type of operations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Possible solutions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1 - On your version use the &amp;quot;Drop&amp;quot; command with &amp;quot;&lt;span&gt;Extended &lt;/span&gt;Element&amp;quot; checked to convert them to smart solids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2 - Upgrade your Microstation version to a Connect Edition version.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3 - Ask the client to u&lt;span&gt;se the &amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/GroupsDropElement.html"&gt;&lt;span&gt;D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/GroupsDropElement.html"&gt;rop Element&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; command with &amp;quot;Application Elements&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot; checked to convert this &amp;quot;wireframe&amp;quot; solids (in fact they should be parametric solids) to smart solids, after that, in V8 version you can see them as solids.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4 - You can override the display of any element inside Microstation, so in fact you can see one solid filled and another one look a like and as wireframe display. This is controled by &amp;quot;&lt;a href="https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/web/MicroStation%20Help-v18/en/PropertiesDialog.html"&gt;Properties&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; dialog under Extended \ Display Style.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope this helps and regards&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>