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open design file settings  set  your units to feet decimal units and in the read out set to 2 or as many as you want decimal places  right now it looks like

ft : inches :sub inches.. thank God were decimal  just  meters decimal 3 places or  mm 1 decimal place

DOCX

Hello,

I don't that option all what I am trying to do is copy the setting what my company has and every time I open the design file the setting changes. I been trying for a long time to get this to work and reading all the help documents I just can't get it to work.

Here are the setting I want:

DOCXDOCX

Can you help me to get this to work?

Thanks

Steve Smith said:

in my original post I attached the design file

Oops, I missed that attachment.

Steve Smith said:

that I would like to have my working units setup per the .docs attached in the previous post. 

In your file, the format is set to MU:SU (master units : sub units), so MicroStation shows the value as 25:00.

Steve Smith said:

Once  you help me get this file setup correctly

To change it to MU and to save settings (in V8i it is File > Save settings) should be enough.

Steve Smith said:

I would like to know where to place the file so when I want to create a new dgn drawing it will use this file with the correct units.

The solution depends whether you are able to modify the used workspace:

• A variable MS_SEEDFILE defines the seed files location (folder(s))
• A variable MS_DESIGNSEED defines default seed file (its name, but not location)

But it's not mandatory, because when a new file is created, in the dialog also an option to define seed file is available, so it can be selected manually:

Steve Smith said:

I guess the additional lines in the blank dgn needs to be deleted in order for it be used when creating a new dgn drawing.

Yes, because the seed file is copied 1:1 and (only) renamed to have a name of the new file.

Steve Smith said:

This setup for Microstation is complex and difficult even after reading all the help stuff.

I disagree. MicroStation setup is well structured in logical manner, and has not changed for at least 30 years ;-)

The problem is that it's extremely flexible, so it can easily looks like weird magic. But it's not.

When you feel so, I think you did not pass the right training .. but, at the same time, I must admit that I do not know any really good, publicly available, introduction to MicroStation configuration. On the other hand, how it's described in MicroStation CONNECT Edition documentation, is in my opinion much better than it was in V8i doc.

With regards,

  Jan

Hello,

I don't appreciate your comment I  I think you did not pass the right training. You don't know what specific training was offered or not so please keep your unprofessional comment to yourself.  Remember this is a place to ask other customers for help regardless if a person is a export or a person learning this stuff people need to respond and help in a professional way. 

Can you attach the new seed file with the correct working units that I want per my .doc.

Thanks

Apologies if you found Jan Šlegr's post upsetting. I do not think he meant offence. What I think he is saying is that if you wanted to have any of your files created with the correct Working Units that you need to create your own template, or seed DGN file, with the required settings. Once created you place this at your workspace's defined location using the suggested configuration variables. 

• A variable MS_SEEDFILE defines the seed files location (folder(s))
• A variable MS_DESIGNSEED defines default seed file (its name, but not location)

That way, in the future any new DGN file you create has these Working Units defined. The following Youtube video should be of assistance in explaining how this can be achieved.

Andrew Bell said:

I do not think he meant offence.

Exactly. The only thing I wrote, and I see no reason to change it (even when anybody can have different experience of course), is that when MicroStation configuration is seen as difficult (which is what was mentioned), it's about to find and pass the right training.

I guess it has been valid for all these (over) 30 years I work with MicroStation ;-)

Andrew Bell said:

What I think he is saying

I think I answered or at least touch all questions asked: Why the value is displayed as MU:SU, where it can be changed, what to do to save this configuration to be persistent and I also described two ways how to use such file as seed (using variables and manually). Is there anything more?

In the situations, when the whole answer is about emotions, and there is no reaction whether changes were tested and whether it works or not, I do not see a way how to continue in this discussion, because there is no new information that can be analyzed.

Regards,

  Jan

Steve Smith said:

Remember this is a place to ask other customers for help regardless if a person is a export or a person learning

We'll mostly we are a collection of fellow users at least and Jan can come across a bit harsh but I want to believe its his use of written English ..

I don't believe he is a native speaker even though he comes over very technically correct english.

Jan has been an  enormous contributor here over the years and has been  a great help to many of us fellow users me included, in particular he is fabulous at VBA.. in any case  the  settings of your  units and read out is microstation training  101 first day first  hour .. if it wasn't then you have been done a disservice by your trainer / mentor..

No matter  just edit your files design file settings  as has been described in the settings not advanced... in units  accuracy you don't want too many decimal places  if you want it to read 00:00 feet ( survey feet)  sorry we metric users  don't really understand ft and survey feet..  then make sure nothing is in your file delete and use compress to delete un-used levels then save it with a logical name  like USFTSeed.dgn  make sure other  fellow workers can find this file and set it in your workspace  or just remember where , and when you need to you do a  "new  file "drill to this and then mstn will remember it as long as you never use a different  one .. this seed file is your new file template so to speak...

Steve Smith said:

Remember this is a place to ask other customers for help regardless if a person is a export or a person learning

We'll mostly we are a collection of fellow users at least and Jan can come across a bit harsh but I want to believe its his use of written English ..

I don't believe he is a native speaker even though he comes over very technically correct english.

Jan has been an  enormous contributor here over the years and has been  a great help to many of us fellow users me included, in particular he is fabulous at VBA.. in any case  the  settings of your  units and read out is microstation training  101 first day first  hour .. if it wasn't then you have been done a disservice by your trainer / mentor..

No matter  just edit your files design file settings  as has been described in the settings not advanced... in units  accuracy you don't want too many decimal places  if you want it to read 00:00 feet ( survey feet)  sorry we metric users  don't really understand ft and survey feet..  then make sure nothing is in your file delete and use compress to delete un-used levels then save it with a logical name  like USFTSeed.dgn  make sure other  fellow workers can find this file and set it in your workspace  or just remember where , and when you need to you do a  "new  file "drill to this and then mstn will remember it as long as you never use a different  one .. this seed file is your new file template so to speak...