Microstation Connect - Drawing extraction

Question

Is there in Microstation Connect Edition a tool like "Drawing Extraction Manager" that was in the V8i edition? Or something that colud extract editableable visible edges that keep a link to the original file?

mlm · Accepted Answer

Hi Antonio, 
 If you could rather specify more detailed what you want to achieve. 
 In MicroStation I place section callouts in Models and create sections that I place in Sheet Models. Rather Visible Edges "Dynamic" The display of "Cached" needs always to be tweaked to show "normal" in comparison. And for my models "Dynamic" is quicker at the end of the day !(?) because the updating of cached references can be rather annoying and time consuming in my view. 
 
 If anything changes with these tools (I reckon these tools as best practice (?)) the sections are updated immediately. 
 No nerve wrecking "drawing extraction" required!

Ian Lapper · Answer

Hi Antonio 
 
 As mentioned by others, DEM was an AECOsim tool, it was originally developed many years ago within TriForma. Bentley decided to remove this from the CONNECT edition called Open Building Designer (OBD). As you have mentioned it was a great tool and allowed users the ability to create and manage extracted views but generate them as 2d lines arc etc. which meant they were easier to manipulate. 
 
 With OBD this has been replaced by the use of the call out tools. These tools will create what is known as a Dynamic View (DV), which is a live link back to the 3d model. As Gerd has mentioned, this is a better workflow, however it does limit you to how you can override the data to make it better. 
 
 Both MicroStation and OBD have the call out tools and both behave in a similar approach. OBD will give you greater control over the outputs as it is linked to a Building dataset, where you can defined how a wall will be cut, hatched etc. MicroStation doesn't have this technology, it is just a cut based on the element properties, which is where you are coming from. 
 Where ever possible try to keep the live links, you can use level overrides to control the outputs and maintain a link back to the 3d model. 
 
 A workflow that might help 
 An option you have in the latest CONNECT versions, you can create the call out (DV) Plan, Section, Elevation or Detail 
 These are located in the Ribbon within the Drawing Production in OBD and Annotation option within MicroStation 
 Create the DV and open it 
 Check the reference files is set to CACHE (this means the view is locked at a point in time) 
 
 Select ALL the elements from the view (DV) 
 Right click and hold 
 Select the option 'Copy/Hide Cached Elements'

This will create a live copy of the reference files elements 
 Turn OFF the reference files 
 Edit the elements to suit your requirements 
 When the 3d model changes, when you reopen the 'DV view' the CACHE reference files will warn you it is out of date. 
 You can chose to update the refence files via the pencil NEVER USER THE UNCACHE/DYNAMIC OPTION - this will wipe out the Hidden/copied elements 
 To view what is in in the HIDE/COPY mode, select the reference file and location the option in the icons at the bottom of the reference files dialog to 'Display Hidden elements'

These elements will change the the DGN highlight colour 
 TO DISPLAY What has changed since the last HIDE/COPY. turn on the reference file Display and update the view via the pencil 
 Compare what has changed and select the differences and repeat the above to add them to the active file

HTH 
 
 Ian

Jan Šlegr · Answer

Hi Antonio, 
 Drawing Extraction Manager (DEM) has never been part of MicroStation V8i Edition, but, as far as I remember, it was tool delivered with build products (like AECOsim Building Designer). 
 So, I am confused a bit what your question is: 
 
 If the question is not about MicroStation, but OpenBuilding Designer, please move the discussion to building forum . To move existing discussion, use More > Move tool, available under your original post. Also, I recommend to search existing discussions and other content for similar topics, because some "DEM in CE" aspects were discussed already (see e.g. this wiki page ). 
 If you really use MicroStation (and not some building product), the question cannot be about DEM, but maybe it's "how to achieve similar functionality"? In cuh case, the link shared by Jon is a good place where to start. 
 
 I also recommend to follow the best practices , because regardless you use MicroStation or any other product, it's crucial to specify both the product and its exact version. CONNECT Edition products have evolved rapidly and available tools and features differ in every versions (and there are many, e.g. MicroStation CE exists in about 20 versions now). 
 With regards, 
 Jan

Andrew Bell · Answer

As has been suggested, the Drawing Extraction Manager is not a tool that was included with a default installation of MicroStation, XM or V8i. It is a tool that was previously available in AECOsim Building Design | OpenBuildings but appears has not been included in the CONNECT Edition. 
 Drawing Extraction Manager is not included in CONNECT Edition 
 If you have any further questions regarding this I would suggest posting them to the OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon forum.

Microstation Connect - Drawing extraction

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