Highligt linestring complex chain and complex shape in MicroStation CONNECT

Hi

I have a small question regarding the behaviour of highlighting linestrings, complex chains and complex shapes in MicroStation CONNECT.

The situation is that I havde drawn several linestrings, complex chains and complex shapes. When I select the tool "Element selection" and moves the cursor over the linestring, the complete linestring will highlight.

This is also the situation for all other modifying tools, fx. extend line, modify, move, copy, trim to element and others, but except the tools Create Complex Chain and Create Complex Shape. These tools highlights single elements of the linestring or complex element you move your cursor over.

In MicroStation V8i it's not the case. All modyfying tools hightligts the complete linestring or complex element. I don't know why this is changed in CONNECT edition only for Create Complex Chain and Create Complex Shape.

Does anybody know why or is it bug?

Kind Regards

Rune Halkjær

  • I see the issue you are describing, but why is this important? How does this effect your workflow in a negative way? Are you really gaining anything by having the entire line string, complex shape entirely highlighted with the tools mentioned?

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  • I can see that if I were creating a complex chain/shape manually from existing complex elements, it would be helpful to highlight the entire existing element so that I can see where the "next" element I need to select starts. Showing me only the "current" segment of the existing complex element means that I could click along, doing nothing (because I can't add that element again) until I happened over the end of the existing element onto the next element to add. It might not critically impact my production, but it certainly would be annoying. I'm adding the whole thing, so please show me the whole thing.

    My other subconscious concern would be...Are we adding the whole element, or just the highlighted segment? The single highlighted segment indicates that the whole element will NOT be added, and is contracry to the actual functioning of the tool. That's not good, effective visual feedback.

    Yes, it's small, but highlighting only one segment of an entire element when the whole thing has been selected is poor design and not very helpful at all.

    MaryB

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  • I guess I am just used to using the selection tool first to identify the elements. If I hover over an element and see it is a linestring or shape I do not need to go any further with creating a linestring or shape from the elements, unless more elements need to be added to the existing. I can see where it can be useful information to see the entire element if you have the create linesting or shape tool already active. I just have a different workflow.

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  • I guess I am just used to using the selection tool first to identify the elements.

    Does Create Complex Shape & Create Complex Chain work with selection sets in CONNECT as they certainly don't in V8i?

    It seems like another unnecessary, unrequested change that should not have been implemented, whether intended or as I would guess, yet another bug.

  • Does Create Complex Shape & Create Complex Chain work with selection sets in CONNECT as they certainly don't in V8i?

    I've never tried in either version. I just tried it in CONNECT. If you have a selection set and select one the create shape or complex chain the selection set is removed. Maybe it is due to the fact that Microstation wants you to select the elements in your preferred order? For a complex shape it should not matter the order, but maybe the programmer did not think that it was relevant just to create the shape in a predetermined order. And with the ability to change the direction of a line string it really shouldn't matter which end the tool would start from. It's a mystery I guess.

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