CE - Using multiline text above or below a dimension line

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Ok, a similar question was asked back in 2012, but there were no replies.

communities.bentley.com/.../editing-dimensions-with-show-secondary-units-enabled-issues

When adding dimensions to typical sections I often need to have a dimension above the dimension line and a descriptor below. I am able to do this by using Secondary Units with the primary units.

The issue arises when I need one of these units to use multiline text. Once you introduce multiline text. either the primary or secondary units, the other unit disappears. In the screenshot I edited the 15' (*) in the text editor to read VARIES 15' TO 25' (using a hard return after the (*)). This also leads to the text justification using top left rather than Center Bottom, which is the text style being used by the dimension style. To further complicate the issue the text weight becomes 0 (zero).

I would really like to be able to place these dimensions so that I can have multiline above the line, below the line or both without having to place independent text for one or the other. The text would need to honor the settings of the dimension style (in this case all dimension lines are weight 1, but text is weight 3) and the text would need to honor center justification.

I understand that this is a dimension element and it is not like a note with a leader where the leader is a dimension element and the text is annotation. Why can't dimensions be similar so we can apply text settings to the text?

Is there any type of solution that currently exists to resolve this issue without dropping the dimension & without the need to add an independent piece of text?

  • can  you  post sample dgn  of the  first  screen shot  and a picture of what you want it to look like after editing .. I think I have a work flow and dim style that would work but I need to do tests with your actual data 

    Lorys

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  • Attached is a sample file with a step by step process showing what I need to accomplish. The solution will need to be straight forward and not needing to jump through hoops. If it is too difficult users will not want to go through the process. This needs to be geared to users who may not perform dimensioning tasks on a regular basis. There are already a lot of settings being changed for a multitude of scenarios, which are not complicated, but can be frustrating. This has been an issue even with v8i, but I never submitted any type of SR.

    I am currently working on training documents and videos for our staff to instruct everyone on how dimensioning works, what our formats will be, and how to place/modify dimension elements without dropping them down to individual elements.

    MULTILINE_DIM.dgn

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  • I'll be interested to see what solutions are offered. I don't need this often, but I do need it.

    I always go with the "independent piece of text" workaround because that leaves my dimension itself intact. I edit the dimension text to be just a space, and place my multiline text (one single text node for both above and below text) at the dimension as desired. But that's all it is - a workaround. My dimension stays intact, which is good, but the text has no relation to it; When I adjust the dimension, the text just sits there...

    MaryB

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  • I use a similar workflow. I can get the multiline text above or below to work. I add independent text for the other part. We have been working this way for many years, and it is fine for the most part. The problem is sloppy drafters don't want to take the time to align all of the text across the horizontal axis.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

  • This has been requested previously and there is an outstanding Enhancement Request 767417 filed .


    Regards

    Carl Myhill

    Technical Support Engineer

    Bentley Systems