MS CE Update 14 - How to manage draw order with references and shape fill

Hi Alexandre,

as Andrew wrote: Without further details, the discussion is quite hypothetical and no clear advice can be provided.

It's recommended in best practices to always specify the used product and it's exact version and any other information, that can help. To use tags is not good idea, experience shows that they are often not noticed or ignored. To use standardized subject, as recommended in e.g. Programming forum, is better way. Alternatively, the product and version can be mentioned in a question itself. But, to use "CONNECT Edition" is not version specification, because there have been 20 versions of MicroStation CE released so far.

There are (I guess) 3 main settings that affect references order:

• Element / level / reference priorities, that can be used in 2D
• References order, that can be used both in 2D and 3D
• In specific cases, antialiasing and transparency also affect the order

As you mentioned already, the settings can be changed for the direct references only, not for nested.

Alexandre de Massy said:

Has anyone else had this issue?

There are many situations, especially when combinations like 2D / 3D, DGN + DWG or WMS (all together at the best case) are used, when the results can look incorrect and it's not easy (or even not possible) to achieve what is required, but in general, both order and priorities work fine.

Alexandre de Massy said:

What should I try next?

In my opinion you should create and share simple test case to demonstrate the problem, because there are too many settings and dependencies. The test case can be just 4 DGN files, with only one or two elements in nested files.

With regards,

  Jan

Hi Alexandre,

as Andrew wrote: Without further details, the discussion is quite hypothetical and no clear advice can be provided.

It's recommended in best practices to always specify the used product and it's exact version and any other information, that can help. To use tags is not good idea, experience shows that they are often not noticed or ignored. To use standardized subject, as recommended in e.g. Programming forum, is better way. Alternatively, the product and version can be mentioned in a question itself. But, to use "CONNECT Edition" is not version specification, because there have been 20 versions of MicroStation CE released so far.

There are (I guess) 3 main settings that affect references order:

• Element / level / reference priorities, that can be used in 2D
• References order, that can be used both in 2D and 3D
• In specific cases, antialiasing and transparency also affect the order

As you mentioned already, the settings can be changed for the direct references only, not for nested.

Alexandre de Massy said:

Has anyone else had this issue?

There are many situations, especially when combinations like 2D / 3D, DGN + DWG or WMS (all together at the best case) are used, when the results can look incorrect and it's not easy (or even not possible) to achieve what is required, but in general, both order and priorities work fine.

Alexandre de Massy said:

What should I try next?

In my opinion you should create and share simple test case to demonstrate the problem, because there are too many settings and dependencies. The test case can be just 4 DGN files, with only one or two elements in nested files.

With regards,

  Jan

Jan Šlegr said:

Without further details, the discussion is quite hypothetical and no clear advice can be provided

Lorys said:

The quickest solution ... still may not work in all situations...

I agree with Jan and Andrew Bell: the OP must supply vital information so that we can provide meaningful answers...

1. The precise version of MicroStation
2. Whether his DGN models are 2D or 3D