MS CE Update 14 - How to manage draw order with references and shape fill

Hi

I have a filled shape in a nested reference (ref. 1.1) that hide linework in another nested reference (ref 1.2) (1 level of nesting).

I have tried changing element and level priority but still the fill shows above the lines. The reference priority cannot be changed because of nesting.

I have also tried changing the update sequence in the file attaching directly the references (ref 1) and it does not seem to have changed a thing.

Has anyone else had this issue? What should I try next?

Thanks.

MicroStation CE Update 14 10.14.02.01 in a 2D design model

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  • I have a filled shape in a nested reference (ref. 1.1) that hide linework in another nested reference (ref 1.2) (1 level of nesting)

    The quickest solution turn off the ref in the nest for the filled shape exref.. then attach the filled shape exref  as a single xref ontop now in the ref manager sequence  set it to the first  xref ie  slot 1 at the top of the list .. then everything else after it   so it gets painted first then everything else is painted on top.. as the way the printer would need to lay it down.. on paper.. not the most inutitive tool but when you think of it as  printing order  its a bit easier.. other drafter use transparencey  but then it  mucks up the way colours look  and you can't  make the legend  look the same becaue  stuff shines thru change the colours like air photos .. so I put 2d  filled shape exrefs  underneath all the other exrefs  and I dont put it a nest  as its hard to control later.. or rebuild  your  nest so filled shapes is first  .. still may not work in all situations...

    Lorys

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  • The quickest solution

    Sorry, but it's not solution (and for sure not the quickest), but a workaround only in situation, when probably standard settings should work.

    Regards,

      Jan

  • ok its a workaround .. when the settings are clearly not working for the user..  and its pretty quick rather than having to make a new nest ..  so what ?  a solution is an answer to a problem that give the desired outcome..   I think your being too pedantic about terminology ..

    The guy has an issue  to make drgs work and has a dead line  for sure ..( yep an assumption there I said it !)

    And when  the conventional method is not doing what it is the expected outcome.. so a " work around"  gets the job done... later  he should investigate why the  conventional method isnt working .. trying to get things to work as they should and waiting for a proper solution  means that  you miss the deadline then its not really helping  .. is it?

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

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  • ok its a workaround .. when the settings are clearly not working for the user..  and its pretty quick rather than having to make a new nest ..  so what ?  a solution is an answer to a problem that give the desired outcome..   I think your being too pedantic about terminology ..

    The guy has an issue  to make drgs work and has a dead line  for sure ..( yep an assumption there I said it !)

    And when  the conventional method is not doing what it is the expected outcome.. so a " work around"  gets the job done... later  he should investigate why the  conventional method isnt working .. trying to get things to work as they should and waiting for a proper solution  means that  you miss the deadline then its not really helping  .. is it?

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

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