What is actually a "Graphic Group"?

Hi.

I see 2 ways to create a Group in MicroStation:

- Group

- Named Group.

Group is very limitated because I understand we cannot add/remove elements later. And it is basically a Cell.

I understand that "Graphic Group" is a Named Group...

Because tools such as "Add to Graphic Group" and "Remove From Graphic group" are only for "Named Groups".

http://www.mdlapps.com/microstation/ustnhelp286.html#F26021

There is also "Graphic Group Lock" (ON /OFF) for Named Groups.

Why Bentley differenciates between Graphic Group and Named Group? is not the same? Is the old name of Named Group?

Thanks.

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  • I see 2 ways to create a Group in MicroStation:

    - Group

    - Named Group.

    the worst is that it is one dialog - in my view - "Add to Graphic Group" there you have to switch on the Option "Named Group" . Without you get GG, with the option an NG.

    That is confusing.

    Named Groups allow dependencies and "active" and "passive" members.

    The worst is though that you can not copy that "Named Group" (or create a cell from it) ( it is a longstanding request) - In effect the Named Groups are not useable in practice.

    You can copy GGs (it increases the GG Number)

    Also - to confuse new users ? - there is the "Group" command which effectively creates an (unnamed) cell. (You can give it a name later in the properties)

  • You can not copy a Named Group

    Please describe the workflow when a copy of a Named Group would be useful.

    • Does copy also copy children of that NG?
    • Does copy also copy the DGN elements assigned to that NG?
    You can not create a cell from a Named Group

    I can see how that might work.

    • NG name => Cell Name
    • DGN elements in NG become cell components
    • What about children of the NG?
    it is a longstanding request

    Request to Bentley Systems?  We know that they tend to get lost under the carpet (your words!).  Post another Idea to make it formal.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

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  • You can not copy a Named Group

    Please describe the workflow when a copy of a Named Group would be useful.

    • Does copy also copy children of that NG?
    • Does copy also copy the DGN elements assigned to that NG?
    You can not create a cell from a Named Group

    I can see how that might work.

    • NG name => Cell Name
    • DGN elements in NG become cell components
    • What about children of the NG?
    it is a longstanding request

    Request to Bentley Systems?  We know that they tend to get lost under the carpet (your words!).  Post another Idea to make it formal.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

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