"Tentative point" works different if AccuDraw is enabled or not.

MS CE U16

I don´t know if this scenario is WAD or not:

If "AccuDraw" is ON and then I draw a polyline (Place SmartLine) with several segments and press Tentative Point (left and right button). If I do Reset button (right-click) then I could pick to another location.

But.

If "AccuDraw" is OFF and I do the same:........................................................................................................................................................................................................... then it is a CANCEL, so I would create a new polyline if I pick a new location.

So, AccuDraw and Tentative point are related together?

Example with "AccuDraw= ON" first and then OFF.

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  • Oooooh.... Fight.
    I would not say that Tentative is superseded technology, merely supplemented by AccuSnap.
    There are things you can do with a good old manual Tentative snap that AccuSnap just cant.
    eg. find the apparent intersection of two line that are not actually crossing.
    It also provides a nice positive lock onto a snap point when you have a shaky mouse hand that AccuSnap sometime struggles with, especially in 3D

    However, I can confirm that the presence/absence of AccuDraw does change the behaviour of a Reset after a Tentative snap.
    This has long been the case, even in back in v8i. But who in their right mind is working with out AccuDraw anyway? ;-)

  • Oooooh.... Fight.
    I would not say that Tentative is superseded technology

    I was paraphrasing MicroStation help, not expressing a view!

    There are things you can do with a good old manual Tentative snap that AccuSnap just cant

    I'm pleased to be informed.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

  • No worries.  (but I think you should have pulled me up on my shocking grammar there... it's atrocious.)

  • Count me in the Tentative > AccuSnap camp.

    I've always felt it was a crutch to appease transitioning AutoCAD users, when older MicroStation users used to function just fine with only the tentative. I do use AccuSnap, but it often fails to hit the snap you need when there are many snap points available, but thankfully the tentative saves the day every single time.

  • Well... Tentative has its drawbacks too. Most notably not hinting at the nearest valid snap point.

    So, I tend to recommend using the best of both tools simultaneously.
    Accusnap -  to give the dynamic feedback on hint, element info, etc.
    Tentative - to explicitly lock on without having to move the mouse all the way to the yellow X.

    I personally feel there is some harmonisation that needs to go into this.
    for instance;
    - integrating the Tab key into Tentative to drill through multiple "near" options. Just as it works with AccuSnap. This would save a fair amount of RSI on my mouse hand.
    - using the same visual language (icon/marker) for the yellow X and the Tentative cross hair. That way it look like the same tool...

    For me personally MultiSnap in an anathema. I much prefer selecting the actual snap type I want ahead of time, rather than waiting for the machine to maybe suggest the snap that perhaps my mouse might be near. Especially in 3D where your view's boresight is in play.