Windows 11 Compatibility ?

Hi dominic SEAH,

Thank you for your post.

As stated by other users and colleagues in this thread, MicroStation CONNECT is not currently certified to run on Windows 11 - although there are plans for certification in the future, an exact version/release cannot be guaranteed at this time.

I would advise you withhold your OS upgrade until a certified version of MicroStation CONNECT is commercially available.

Until this time, utilizing MicroStation CONNECT in a Windows 11 environment is at your own risk.

Cheers!
Jayson P.

Hi Jayson,

Jayson Perry said:

although there are plans for certification in the future, an exact version/release cannot be guaranteed at this time.

it is another proof Bentley do not treat MicroStation as main product anymore and do not care about its active development and support. I am disappointed.

Comparing with competitors: ESRI explained in June (!) how compatibility testing will be done and how new Windows can affect ArcGIS Pro users (including dependency on used GIS database). AutoCAD announce already Windows 11 is to be supported by both 2021 and 2022 versions.

Regards,

  Jan

Jan Šlegr said:

it is another proof Bentley do not treat MicroStation as main product anymore and do not care

I concur. So what is their main product?

Bob Rayner said:

So what is their main product?

My feeling for last few years is all resources have been dedicated to iTwin.js ecosystem (both open-source part and iModel Hub commercial back-end) and related products. The most of people I know from MicroStation development (like Paul Connelly, Jeff Marker, Bill Steinbock and Keith Bentley, of course ;-) now commit their work to iTwin project. Also Sunand Sandurkar, who led platform development team in the past (and did pretty good job there), is now in charge of Digital Tower products (solution developed on top of iTwin / iModel technology).

Everything else (but I am aware I know in detail only a fraction of products) looks like there are no resources, skilled teams, and even no clear visions: MicroStation ... still slow, with plenty of recurring bugs, visualization ... not working well, fragmented between VUE and LumenRT (and Pro), OBD ... nothing exciting I guess, OCM ... I do not see any strong movement, maybe civil products look not so bad.

Regards,

  Jan

Bob Rayner said:

So what is their main product?

My feeling for last few years is all resources have been dedicated to iTwin.js ecosystem (both open-source part and iModel Hub commercial back-end) and related products. The most of people I know from MicroStation development (like Paul Connelly, Jeff Marker, Bill Steinbock and Keith Bentley, of course ;-) now commit their work to iTwin project. Also Sunand Sandurkar, who led platform development team in the past (and did pretty good job there), is now in charge of Digital Tower products (solution developed on top of iTwin / iModel technology).

Everything else (but I am aware I know in detail only a fraction of products) looks like there are no resources, skilled teams, and even no clear visions: MicroStation ... still slow, with plenty of recurring bugs, visualization ... not working well, fragmented between VUE and LumenRT (and Pro), OBD ... nothing exciting I guess, OCM ... I do not see any strong movement, maybe civil products look not so bad.

Regards,

  Jan

Oh, have no fear, the civil products are no better than the platform...Bugs, regressions, version discrepancies, half-baked tools that only kind-of work, convoluted plans production devised by people who (it would seem) have not much experience in a production environment, not to mention a backlog of requests that may never see the light of day.

Amen sister preach it! 

Discontinuing support  for V8i ss10 when  CE still isnt  fit for purpose is just stupid.

 Getting really hard to defend still using  Microstation to our masters and colleagues,   no wonder so many are going  over to Autocad and Civil 3d and embracing  the dark side and just giving  up on Microstation... .. too bad,  really a sad state of affairs .. glad I'll be retiring in a couple more years..

yeap, in the past, management would once in a while ask "why don't we switch over to the A team? why do we stick with team B?". Though arduous, it was a straight forward cost-benefit analysis and team B won most of the time. And the question was only asked once every 3-4yr. 

In the last 4 years, the same question had been brought up yearly. The analysis had been compiled yearly, and the result getting less and less straight forward over the years. I think it'll soon come to a point where a tie will be reached. 

Interestingly enough, there's a newer version of Microstation SS10, 8.11.9.931, released 8/26/2021 in download center.

And what can you tell us about the original question? Have you read the newer release notes for 8.11.9.931?

https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-announcements-forum/218874/microstation-v8i-selectseries-10-version-08-11-09-931

and the docs pages does not have it: https://docs.bentley.com/LiveContent/ at all