Switching from Powerdraft to Microstation

For more information please refer to the following page:

communities.bentley.com/.../powerdraft-to-microstation-connect-edition-upgrade-initiative

Hi David

Thank you for the link.  the facts still stand... Bentley want to force PD users to use MS, but what they fail to tell the users is their (SELECT) maintenance cost that is twice the value of PD.  

in 2021 - 5 x PD @£586.00= £2930.00
in 2022 - 5 x PD @732.50 = £3662.50 a 25% increase and NO development, NO new updates for the last 2 years and next year and onwards.  WASTED ££££

Take the MS offer

1 x PD = 1 x MS  thank you

however, 5 x MS @ £1197 = £5985.00.  so from £2930.00 to £5985.00 seems like a good deal to me NOT

so for no benefit what so ever your users are being screwed for using software they do not need... PD is more than capable of turning out 2d files and has been since it was first releast back in the 90's

As a side note: Autodesk and Trimble recently did the same.  However, they offered their users a deal to allow them to use the better software but keep their maintenance at the same rate for 3+ years

come on Bentley think about your users rather than £££££££££££

Hi David

Thank you for the link.  the facts still stand... Bentley want to force PD users to use MS, but what they fail to tell the users is their (SELECT) maintenance cost that is twice the value of PD.  

in 2021 - 5 x PD @£586.00= £2930.00
in 2022 - 5 x PD @732.50 = £3662.50 a 25% increase and NO development, NO new updates for the last 2 years and next year and onwards.  WASTED ££££

Take the MS offer

1 x PD = 1 x MS  thank you

however, 5 x MS @ £1197 = £5985.00.  so from £2930.00 to £5985.00 seems like a good deal to me NOT

so for no benefit what so ever your users are being screwed for using software they do not need... PD is more than capable of turning out 2d files and has been since it was first releast back in the 90's

As a side note: Autodesk and Trimble recently did the same.  However, they offered their users a deal to allow them to use the better software but keep their maintenance at the same rate for 3+ years

come on Bentley think about your users rather than £££££££££££

Ian Lapper said:

NO development, NO new updates for the last 2 years and next year and onwards.

I hope you are wrong as at least U16 is expected if not then it unfortunately will not be a surprise either as it is typical.

Ian Lapper said:

NO new updates for the last 2 years

As much as I agree with you on the other points the above is wrong: PD CE 15 English was released on 2020/12/02. That's 1 year.

We made the shift (well basically had to) but don't think I got a written confirmation that no overusage will be billed in the quarter in which we will make the transition. Even if I asked our subscription renewal representative a zillion times for it. The "official letter" is just a worthless PDF to me, my boss wants it confirmed straight from the European office.

The last release of PD was Feb/March 2020.  it is almost December of 2021.  for me that is closer to 2 years than 1 year.  Bentley have said there will NOT be another release.  They did originally say CE 16.2 will be Q1 2022, but then we got the letter saying NOT

So continuous support means no support?

For an explanation of these support categories, please refer to the Bentley Desktop Application Support Policy.

And it doesn't explain.

Ian Lapper said:

They did originally say CE 16.2 will be Q1 2022, but then we got the letter saying NOT

Typical. Same happened to PowerCivil for Baltics.

so if you need support, they will help you.  if you find a BUG.. its tuff.. live with it, we cannot hear you, you do not exist.  give us £££ we will talk to you