Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 21:29:58 GMT

Hi Jon
I found an old thread what I was hopeful to be implemented in microstation soon but this is still not aviable.

So to get these #ideas# to be real is not anything for me to do!

Regards

Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 20:12:46 GMT

And one more thing about describe an work around in the thread readers is that they can find an solution to continue with their project without waiting years for an update from Bentley.

//Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 20:03:52 GMT

Hi Jon

Yeah, to convert this to idea is an option, but what I said in earlier threads. is the idea a good place to add these kind of suggestions. BUT if you relate to the Wish (Idea) there isn´t enough of VOTES for your idea,this is worthless to add as an idea. Most of these for me clear design problems in code is not worth to add as an idea. Better to inform through this thread and to reminder to my self what is the standard "work around" in bentley world to solve an problem. Is Bentley seeng this or not I don´t know, I just wan´t to help users who read this.

//Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Oto — Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:29:26 GMT

microstation.ideas.aha.io/.../MS-I-326

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Jon Summers — Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:33:58 GMT

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Convert your suggestion to an Idea!

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Sun, 10 Apr 2022 20:07:56 GMT

My suggestion to Bentley about this function "Optimized fence clipping" is:

Take away the preferences enable/disable and move the "Optimize fence clipping" enable/disable options to the function dialog boxes that has an function for optimize fence clipping! in these examples copy function from reference/active file and reference merge into master "allow optimized fence clipping". It would be much easier for me "user" to controll when I want use optimized fence clipping or not directly in the function I am using instead of going through preferences with the risk that I forget to disable the function after, when I don´t want to use it anymore!

I don` know how many of you is using or used this function but for me this is super function released in early V8 times, it is powerful and great, if you know what you are going to do with it.

Thank you to Rod for learning me saving time by using this function even when merge/copy from reference information.

Best Regards

Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Sun, 10 Apr 2022 19:29:03 GMT

Example video that shows IF the Optimized fence clipping is Disabled (OFF) in preferences, this do not work even if the merge into master dialog box is set to Allow optimized fence clipping (ON), these two videos is only showing the reference merge to master option regarding enabled or disabled in preferences vs. only in the dialog box that you have the option to select on/off to allow optimized fence clipping directly in merge to master (not included preference setting).

communities.bentley.com/.../Robs-suggestion_5F00_Not-working.mp4

Regards

Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 16:49:31 GMT

And don´t forget to disable optimized fence clipping in the preferences when you are done!!
This function is NOT recommended to have enabled always, so disable always after you used it!

//Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 16:37:11 GMT

Hi Oto
Yes I know, thank you for information anyway.

Best regards

Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 16:35:09 GMT

Hi Rod

Your suggestion is working IF the optimized fence clipping is enabled (on) in preferences. if it is disabled it don´t work so just to check the dialog box when merge into master "Allow Optimized fence clipping" don´t work. You have to enable the function in preferences first.

communities.bentley.com/.../Robs-suggestion-preference-on-working.mp4

Regards

Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Oto — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:49:40 GMT

It only affects shapes, solids, surfaces but still clips text and cells even if off or on.

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:15:01 GMT

Hi Oto

What do you mean by suboptimal? I do not fully understand your answer Oto.

Regards

Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Tom — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:09:30 GMT

Hi Rod
Thank you for point that option out to me Rod.

I am going to test how it work, if I manage to find all the function you described in your worklflow suggestion.

Regards
Tom

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Oto — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 10:34:16 GMT

There is nothing optimized in fence clipping it is suboptimal in every case. It clips text and drops cells not regarding if "optimal" is enabled or not.

RE: Optimized fence clipping in Connect U16 do not make any sence with references attached

Rod Wing — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 22:19:28 GMT

I would use the fence to clip the Reference first, then do a merge into master. The optimized clipping in the merge tool settings is applied to the clipped reference during the merge process.