Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Barry Lothian — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 21:05:45 GMT

If you use Saved Views, you don’t have to worry about keyins. Any changes made in the referenced file are propagated through into your sheet file automatically.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:21:34 GMT

Yes, I see. Thank you, mwlong.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:21:07 GMT

Yes. Thank you, Jon.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:05:06 GMT

Hi f.mandoki,

I think it's not possible to not change anything in the main file. at least in same file which I refer from drawing to sheet.

In AutoCAD, when I refer from model to layout, everything are updated accordingly (color, lineweight, ....).

I don't understand why it is, so I feel MicroStation is more complex than AutoCAD.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

mwlong — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:02:04 GMT

[quote userid="1231902" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/230671/which-config-variable-in-which-level-is-updated-automatically/714920"]Do you know why MicroStation differing with AutoCAD in automating update color with default setting.[/quote]

Because it is not AutoCAD. Different companies make different products.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Jon Summers — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:00:52 GMT

[quote userid="1231902" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/230671/which-config-variable-in-which-level-is-updated-automatically/714914"]One more thing, do you know why MicroStation differing with AutoCAD in automating update color [/quote]

Please don't hijack your own thread! Start a new post for your new question.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:59:14 GMT

Thank you so much, mwlong

Yes, your answer is what I was looking for.

Do you know why MicroStation differing with AutoCAD in automating update color with default setting.

I feel MicroStation is more complex than AutoCAD in using.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:48:53 GMT

Thank MaryB.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:48:29 GMT

Hi Tim,

Thank you so much.

Yes, your answer is what I was looking for.

One more thing, do you know why MicroStation differing with AutoCAD in automating update color with default setting.

I feel MicroStation is more complex than AutoCAD in using.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

MaryB — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 15:10:10 GMT

Good catch - I missed that it was Overrides!

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

mwlong — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 13:15:45 GMT

[quote userid="2622" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/230671/which-config-variable-in-which-level-is-updated-automatically/714737"]Try setting the variable to "OverrideSymbology" instead.[/quote]

Good point Tim. I missed that it was set to Overrides in LM.

One other thing to consider, you can block synching overrides, bylevel settings using this variable.

(MS_LEVEL_AUTO_SYNC_ATTRIBUTE_LIST). This variable controls the list of level-attributes that will automatically synchronize when a file is opened. The attributes can be one or more of the following as a comma separated list : OverrideSymbology, OverrideColor, OverrideStyle, OverrideWeight, OverrideMaterial, ByLevelSymbology, ByLevelColor, ByLevelStyle, ByLevelWeight, ByLevelMaterial, GlobalDisplay, GlobalFreeze, DisplayPriority, Transparency, Lock, Plot Each of the above attributes can take a "Reference" or "Library" prefix. Without the prefix, the said attribute will be synchronized for both reference & library levels.The attributes list may be preceded with a single comma separated "+" or "-" to incrementally change the initial default setting.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tim Hickman — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 13:11:15 GMT

I believe Mary misinformed you on what to set the variable to. She is having you set the ByLevelSymbology when you are not using bylevel.

You are using overrides. Try setting the variable to "OverrideSymbology" instead.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

f.mandoki — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 11:10:41 GMT

Well, just don't change anything in the main file, revert all changes back manually or use mwlong's keyin.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

mwlong — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 10:05:51 GMT

Here is a keyin that should update the levels of the reference file

reference synchronize levels bylevelsymbology <reffilename.dgn>

Replace <reffilename.dgn> with the name of your reference file. If it works for your current file you can run this keyin through the Batch Process on many files to "fix" those as well.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 09:15:25 GMT

Hi f.mandoki.

Thank you, do you know how to fix this issue? please let me know.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

f.mandoki — Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:35:24 GMT

I see black dots next to the level names: that means you've changed their attributes in the main file. As soon as you do this autmatic updates will be prevented. That only works with "virgin" references.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:47:39 GMT

Hi MaryB,

Yes, I restarted software but nothing changed

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

MaryB — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 18:07:04 GMT

Can you give us a screen shot of that setting in your configuration (like you shared before)?
Did you restart MicroStation?

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:53:09 GMT

Thank you, MaryB.

I tried to set value ByLevelSymbology

But nothing changes automatically.

I don't know why.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

MaryB — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:48:05 GMT

The value shouldn't be 1.

It should be the word(s) ByLevelSymbology

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:12:16 GMT

Hi MaryB,

I tried to change MS_LEVEL_AUTO_SYNC_ATTRIBUTE_LIST to value 1 as picture below, but nothing changes automatically.

I also tried to restart software, but nothing changes automatically.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

MaryB — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 16:48:11 GMT

After you fix the variable, I suggest you restart MicroStation completely. After that, it should work automatically forever after.

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

Tuan — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 16:43:25 GMT

Hi MaryB,

Thank you for your help. But it means I need to close and re-open file in order to update automatically? Is it right?

RE: Which "config variable" in which level is updated automatically

MaryB — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 16:38:39 GMT

The CFG variable you are looking for is MS_LEVEL_AUTO_SYNC_ATTRIBUTE_LIST

"This variable controls the list of level-attributes that will automatically synchronize when a file is opened. The attributes can be one or more of the following as a comma separated list : OverrideSymbology, OverrideColor, OverrideStyle, OverrideWeight, OverrideMaterial, ByLevelSymbology, ByLevelColor, ByLevelStyle, ByLevelWeight, ByLevelMaterial, GlobalDisplay, GlobalFreeze, DisplayPriority, Transparency, Lock, Plot Each of the above attributes can take a "Reference" or "Library" prefix. Without the prefix, the said attribute will be synchronized for both reference & library levels."

So you would set this something like

MS_LEVEL_AUTO_SYNC_ATTRIBUTE_LIST > ByLevelSymbology

Do be aware that this will apply to every drawing you open in this workspace (or with your user account).
If your workflow is to actually adjust levels on a "sheet" basis, or even a "collector file" basis (there are other ways to accomplish that, but people do what people do) this would undo any changes you wanted to make.

If you don't make changes and don't plan to make changes, then this should give you what you want.