How to turn off markers only in referenced files?

Is it possible to turn off markers in referenced files? I use files with many references, which have their own markers. I want them to be turned off, as I don't need them at the moment.

Grzegorz
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  • Hello Grzegorz,

    I have had similar question quite a while ago. The answer is twofold:

    1. If you want to turn off all markers, both for the active file and the references, it can be done with this setting:

    As long as the reference presentation is set to "From parent", the markers in the reference file(s) will follow the View Flags of the parent view.

    2.  If you want to have only the markers visible for the active file, and turn off those for the references, I'm afraid that is not possible. It is something I have been looking for as well some time ago, I believe an Enhancement was filed for it. But I can't find the number.

  • 2.  If you want to have only the markers visible for the active file, and turn off those for the references, I'm afraid that is not possible. It is something I have been looking for as well some time ago, I believe an Enhancement was filed for it. But I can't find the number.

    I created a new MS Idea: View flag for "markers" in reference | MicroStation Ideas Portal (aha.io). In case you are interested, feel free to vote.

  • I posted these before for other view attribute changes.....

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    But here are a few I just tested the part that precedes the true or false is the view attribute feature only trial and error worked for me to work out if its two words or a single word.. but true or false gives on or off.. these work great in batch process .. but remember people can switch things back on or off in the View attributes tool ( only tested in V8i SS10)

    MDL KEYIN BENTLEY.VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG,VAD VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG SETATTRIBUTE 0 ClipVolume False
    MDL KEYIN BENTLEY.VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG,VAD VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG SETATTRIBUTE 0 ClipVolume True
    MDL KEYIN BENTLEY.VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG,VAD VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG SETATTRIBUTE 0 Fill True
    MDL KEYIN BENTLEY.VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG,VAD VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG SETATTRIBUTE 0 Fill False
    MDL KEYIN BENTLEY.VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG,VAD VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG SETATTRIBUTE 0 ACStriad False
    MDL KEYIN BENTLEY.VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG,VAD VIEWATTRIBUTESDIALOG SETATTRIBUTE 0 ACStriad False
    ---------------------------- snip ------------------------------------

    you'll have to do trial and  error for the word for MARKERS and  ends in FALSE to turn off..

    Then you can  put the keyin onto a batch process script it ends with FILEDESIGN so it saves the setting and run it with the batch processor utility  over all the files you want it to fix. IMHO markers  are more trouble than they are  worth. So I have it  set to   off in my all my seed files and for all my  fellow users, perhaps you should do the same to prevent this happening again.

    I hope this helps work around your  problems...

    Lorys

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  • Then you can  put the keyin onto a batch process script it ends with FILEDESIGN so it saves the setting and run it with the batch processor utility  over all the files you want it to fix

    Hi Lorys,

    If I understand correctly (I'm not too familiar with batch processor), what you propose is to fix a number of files. In all of these files the script would turn off the view flag for markers, right?

    How will that help for the reference files? 

    The situation we are looking for is that the markers remain visible for the ACTIVE design file but be turned off for the references.

  • How will that help for the reference files? 

    It doesn't, and I'm not sure why anyone would even think of using those key-ins in a batch script either, especially when a more palatable syntax is available

    set markers off; selview all

  • I didnt  know about  the " set markers off"   keyin ... thanks barry  I'll add it to my collection...

    So moving  on use barry's script in  a batch processor script and apply it by adding all your ref  files to the batch

    but if your like most of use we either have refs in a custom folder or use a naming convention to see xrefs 

    Lorys

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  • Most (if not all) of the View attributes are accessible using the that keyin by swapping in the appropriate attribute name (use the Keyin browser to get the actual name). Most can be set to ON|OFF|TOGGLE, but not all have the Toggle Setting. I mentioned the keyin as its something you can easily remember.

    The problem with your suggestion is that it doesn't work; batch turning off view attributes within files which are reference files, makes no difference as those View Attributes don't pass through when they are attached into another file. Even when making a Saved View with Markers turned off in one of those files, then attaching that file using the Saved View, the markers still appear. There really is no solution the no solution to having markers in reference files not appear (without affecting the display of those in the active file).

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  • Most (if not all) of the View attributes are accessible using the that keyin by swapping in the appropriate attribute name (use the Keyin browser to get the actual name). Most can be set to ON|OFF|TOGGLE, but not all have the Toggle Setting. I mentioned the keyin as its something you can easily remember.

    The problem with your suggestion is that it doesn't work; batch turning off view attributes within files which are reference files, makes no difference as those View Attributes don't pass through when they are attached into another file. Even when making a Saved View with Markers turned off in one of those files, then attaching that file using the Saved View, the markers still appear. There really is no solution the no solution to having markers in reference files not appear (without affecting the display of those in the active file).

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  • There really is no solution the no solution to having markers in reference files not appear (without affecting the display of those in the active file).

    I had a suspicion that was going to be the case... another  reason not to use them turned on.

    But  if  poster is willing to accept  off in active file all views then a  batch process will work with your  keyin  and  poster should consider  in future changing their  seed  files to not use markers 

    I only really used these once in my  whole microstationwork life of 30 years and  it was  interactive map to load specific pdfs... but now days  I prefer to just work with a  pdf  itself with  pdf links to other  pdf pages so its all self contained and  client doesnt need cad to open files  just adobe reader... 

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • I only really used these once in my  whole microstationwork life of 30 years and  it was  interactive map to load specific pdfs... but now days  I prefer to just work with a  pdf  itself with  pdf links to other  pdf pages so its all self contained and  client doesnt need cad to open files  just adobe reader... 

    What I like about markers is the ability to very easily open a certain drawing/sheet based on it's position in the 3D model. Or use the "hover" over the marker to see the options for Dynamic view, display callout, ...

    How do you do such things if not with markers? Maybe there is indeed another way that I (and OP) simply don't know about?

  • Personally, I know what drawings or models my 3D sections (Saved Views associated to named Clip Volumes) are located in. I just don't need a mechanism to open that file for me. I'll take manually opening drawings over annoying non-graphical icons every day of the week.