Bentley Redline on Windows 7

Hi, I have just installed Bentley Redline XM on Windows 7 and it seams to be working fine exept that all RDL files I open are read only. They are not readonly in the file system and it makes no difference on what folders they are stored. I am running Redline as the Admin user and read only option is not on in the open dialog. If I create a new RDL file it is not readonly at first but if I close the progarm it and open the file again then it is readonly.

Do anyoune have any idea what is coursing this ?

regards

 karl

  • Please be aware that Bentley Redline software is not compatible with Windows 7, and is not supported.

    Bentley Redline has been replaced with Bentley Navigator.

    Information on this can be found here:

    www.bentley.com/.../ProjectWise+Navigator



  • I think its windows 7 that is the main problem if you install any program it sets it in programs directory which windows sees as  not to allow changes even if your  the administrator your not in win7  its a UAC thing..

    I now only install all my programs  to custom folders like c:\bentley\redline  never ever  anything like c:\programs(x86) or similar..

    Next problem  when you try to open a dgn file with redline it treats that file as a reference file and creates an new file with the same name and RDL extension... and effectively  ref attaches the first chosen file ...

    next time you try again you should be in redline mode  and it should open the old rdl file  but how you make sure...mmmm

    Try this open your job first time as redline mode not administrator  this is not readonly  just you cant change workspace prefs etc..

    you should still be able to draw etc and attach refs .. close readline now restart redline from icon never from explorer..

    make sure again the manager says your in redline mode and from history  you should see your last file name open that.. and all your work should be there ready to add more... well thats how I used to use it in win xp...

    Lorys

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  • Unknown said:

    I think its windows 7 that is the main problem if you install any program it sets it in programs directory which windows sees as  not to allow changes even if your  the administrator your not in win7  its a UAC thing..

    I now only install all my programs  to custom folders like c:\bentley\redline  never ever  anything like c:\programs(x86) or similar..

    While this could really help for "old" applications, your hint is to be critizized as a general solution. All applications with a Win7 Logo must be designed to not write in "program files". So good modern applications with Win7 logo do not need this "folder relaxation". Actually it's a safety measure, one small brick in the anti-malware firewall of Vista, Win7, win8!

    For "old" applications you still have 2 other, more official ways:

    • Change Application properties to tag a Program as "WinXP generation" (or even Win98, Win95). Then many more forbidden actions like writing in program files will be redirected to a substitute directory or and the likes, compared to just run them as standard.
    • And as a final powerful hammer you can configure an application to run in Administrator context, which almost always resolves issues, including writing to program files. Still, no other process can write then, preventing malware from Internetsurfing to replace or add unwanted programs into the program folders. The tagged application runs on an island of adminrights, which should be enough.

    So better try these first instead of opening all gates to the ocean of malware ;) Can anybody show the detail howto's, if needed?

    Bigean

  • Unknown said:

    I think its windows 7 that is the main problem if you install any program it sets it in programs directory which windows sees as  not to allow changes even if your  the administrator your not in win7  its a UAC thing..

    I now only install all my programs  to custom folders like c:\bentley\redline  never ever  anything like c:\programs(x86) or similar..

    While this could really help for "old" applications, your hint is to be critizized as a general solution. All applications with a Win7 Logo must be designed to not write in "program files". So good modern applications with Win7 logo do not need this "folder relaxation". Actually it's a safety measure, one small brick in the anti-malware firewall of Vista, Win7, win8!

    For "old" applications you still have 2 other, more official ways:

    • Change Application properties to tag a Program as "WinXP generation" (or even Win98, Win95). Then many more forbidden actions like writing in program files will be redirected to a substitute directory or and the likes, compared to just run them as standard.
    • And as a final powerful hammer you can configure an application to run in Administrator context, which almost always resolves issues, including writing to program files. Still, no other process can write then, preventing malware from Internetsurfing to replace or add unwanted programs into the program folders. The tagged application runs on an island of adminrights, which should be enough.

    So better try these first instead of opening all gates to the ocean of malware ;) Can anybody show the detail howto's, if needed?

    Bigean

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    Sorry but Bentley Redline XM for which the user posted is not win7 compliant  

    and if your not full administrator and network administrator  then the win7 UAC is nothing but a PainInTheBum... if you use good antimalware, good antispyware, a firewall and good antivirus then the dangers are almost nil ... your  information is true but hard to do if your not full network admin  user...

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me