Dim Styles and Place Note Alignment

I have a designer that requested a method to align both the place note text and the inline leader. I do not know of away to do this in Microstation with the place note tool. We are using both dimension styles and text styles. The only way I can see this working is to manually modify the place note each time.

See attached file. The green lines represents the prefered alignment location for the text and the note leader. This would mean the in-line leader to be variable lenght each time. The Red lines represent actual alignment location for the leaders.

Does anyone knnow how this could be accomplished each time with just the place note command, while using text styles and dim styles? Open to any ideas.

TIA,
Roland

 

  • The only way I can do it is to turn on the grid snap  ( or draw guidelines first before place notes)

    turn on LOCATION TO  MANUAL in the place note tool then place start point , tentative to snap point data point,

    this ends the arrow leader and places start of inline leader with the text , now snap to point you want the text at and data point ..

    now this is the tricky part you have to move the mouse in the direction you want the text to stay ie left or right and then reset to end the placement

    It takes a bit of getting used to but its pretty good you can even use the option to start with text placed first then the end leader and last the terminator or 

    arrow head.. see my result here

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • This is something that Bentley really NEEDS to address.  The above is kind of a 'Mickey Mouse' way of achieving something that is dictated by most Engineering office drafting practices.  I have yet to know of a Client that has requested right justified text when placing notes and leaders on the left side of a drawing.

    Kindly don;t reply to this so there is a 'Dialogue' regarding who's practices are right /wrong.  The customer, in this case Client is supposed to be right.  So are those who purchase Microstation.

    So would someone at Bentley please address this.  The above looks like a Junior drafter drew this.

    If this has been addressed - please respond by letting me know.

    regards

  • While some of your comments are fair enough and Bentley should make more options in some tools....

    I find your comment a little offensive " re junior drafter ", maybe I'm too sensitive after only 24 years using ustn, but the post and picture was in response to Roland asking how to do something he could not do,  not do it for him .. I do most of my posting from home so I'm not going to spend a lot of time making it real drafting just enough on how to achieve the work flow of the question asked..and a picture to show the result of the work flow in other words how to help out a fellow user with a problem not flame a fellow poster  who actually did what he asked.

    I see that you are from Canadia ( joke here ), I mean  Canada  so your experience might be limited to your own local standards..I'm in Australia  but have seen and used many standards from all over the world and locally from state to state and discipline to discipline as well as in the publishing area.

    The reason it might seem mickey mouse is that microstation isn't set up  to do what he wanted ( the client)  and one had to come up with a way, as we user often have to do  it and this was the only way given the parameters and the tools available I could make ustn do it...

    As to you've never seen it that way I suggest you  take a look at  some technical manuals  drawn by graphic artists and publishers like your work shop manuals for your car maintenance  or your camera user guide...

    But again you  did acknowledge  if its what the client wants or its the clients standards then do it the way the client wants after all he's paying for it.

    A drawing is meant to convey unambiguous  information, standard help to make this happen but if blindly following a standard permits ambiguity or lack of clarity or ease of  reading then the standard defeats the purpose of the drawing.. The standard is not in itself the reason for doing the drawing!

    I feel better now  after all that long rant...

    Lorys

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

  • Real draftmen use curved leader lines.

  • I like the Bspline

    I Hope This Helps Someone Reading This!  (Intergraph>PseudoStation>MicroStation user since 1980's)