Level libraries in csv or xls instead of dgnlib

I don't like dgnlibs because it is not obvious what is stored in which dgnlib.

Now we have level libraries in dgnlibs. Which is  the active file looks in another file for the data.

So why can't we have the active file look in something more transparent and readable than a dgn? Like a csv, or a xls, which can be viewed parallel to the active dgn in ustn.

It would also be much easier to edit than through LM in ustn. 

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  • Why can't there just be a really simple way to view in (optional, configurable level of) detail the contents of things like dgnlibs, seeds, even datasets? Doesn't have to be put into xml, csv or xls, just a configurable viewing tool, which can stay open as a window to refer to (or print out). Bit like ConfigExplorer. Incl what ways the seed (and dgnlib?) has been over-ruled in the current (or any selectable) dgn. Incl a bit of history, per item, of updating in either direction.

  • Hi Tom,

    Unknown said:

    Why can't there just be a really simple way to view in (optional, configurable level of) detail the contents of things like dgnlibs, seeds, even datasets? Doesn't have to be put into xml, csv or xls, just a configurable viewing tool, which can stay open as a window to refer to (or print out). Bit like ConfigExplorer. Incl what ways the seed (and dgnlib?) has been over-ruled in the current (or any selectable) dgn. Incl a bit of history, per item, of updating in either direction.

    but there is export yours standard dgnlib file (... being stand means it should not change  without you knowing about it...) to CSV  and open with excel or print to a book  for desk reference..

    or else just open the dgn lib itself read only with ustn ..

    Lorys 

    PS 

    Have a look at Keith Little's book "survivors  guide  " see section  on levels and DGN libs thats how I learnt about dgnlibs...

    Lorys

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  • Well to be quite frank there are over 200 ideas in the ideas section and we have seen no indication that any of them have even been reviewed, let alone considered.   You guys want feed back from users but we are getting little feed back about the ideas we post.  Personally I'm starting to feel like it was a waste of my time writing them up.

  • Marc

    Unfortunately I don't seem to make myself understood here.

    See comment earlier in this thread.

    I test case would perhaps be if I name my dgnlbs in Swedish - and you were tasked to understand what was stored in each dgnlib.

    regards / Thomas Voghera

  • I am not sure I follow what is being asked here….

    In an active file that has:

    Levels from a DGNLIB

    Textstyles from a DGNLIB

    DimensionStyles from a DGNLIB

    LineStyles

    Etc,,,

    These can all be found where they are coming from.

    If the item is bold in the list , it is a local item

    There is a column in level manager that tells you where the level exists

    If you hover over some items, these state where they exist

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  • Tim,

    You can't tell from the standard pick lists where they come from.  Internal, external, rsc.  Theres no way to tell.

    Theres also no way to filter.  Only levels from this file.  Only Styles from this file.  Things start creeping in from all over and it takes an inordinate amount of time to sort it out.

  • Unknown said:
    Well to be quite frank there are over 200 ideas in the ideas section and we have seen no indication that any of them have even been reviewed, let alone considered.   You guys want feed back from users but we are getting little feed back about the ideas we post.  Personally I'm starting to feel like it was a waste of my time writing them up.

    David,

    We listen and we review the ideas weekly if not more often.  If you notice one has been marked complete.  Currently there isn't a way to mark an Idea to anything other than Under review, Approved, or Complete and this is one of the reasons it is in the EAP section as this is also in a beta try process.  We have a process which is be set up which will move an item into development from the Ideas section but again this is in development.  We also have a criteria with which an item will be moved on but again this is a developing process.  Once we have the process refined we will move Ideas out into the public communities.

    Thanks,

    John

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  • Unknown said:
    Well to be quite frank there are over 200 ideas in the ideas section and we have seen no indication that any of them have even been reviewed, let alone considered.   You guys want feed back from users but we are getting little feed back about the ideas we post.  Personally I'm starting to feel like it was a waste of my time writing them up.

    David,

    We listen and we review the ideas weekly if not more often.  If you notice one has been marked complete.  Currently there isn't a way to mark an Idea to anything other than Under review, Approved, or Complete and this is one of the reasons it is in the EAP section as this is also in a beta try process.  We have a process which is be set up which will move an item into development from the Ideas section but again this is in development.  We also have a criteria with which an item will be moved on but again this is a developing process.  Once we have the process refined we will move Ideas out into the public communities.

    Thanks,

    John

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