Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a 3D site survey possibly carried out using some provisional local controls. With clearly identifiable features of known global and local coordinates, is there a simpler way of re-align the site drawings in the global coordinate system without having to employ the Microstation modification tools?,
I am thinking of acs of the reference file.
Could the effect of such microstation modifications be propagated to other vertical packages like InRoads, Geopak etc?
I would very much welcome video demonstrations if it is possible.
Many thanks in advance.
Hello Gents,
Thank you very much for your contributions on this topic. The first proposal of manually using translation and rotation (possibly within reference attachment dialog box or otherwise) has been my traditional way of solving this kind of problems but I refuse to accept that this is Bentley-Microstation way of resolving such issue. The other suggestion is an interesting one and I know this only works when one wants to export drawings into google earth (Map) and vise versa but not for merging two drawing of different coordinate system.
I would like to think Bentley can extend the principle of merging drawings of different scale, orientation and of different coordinate system by simply using place marking.This way drawings are automatically scaled, orientated and translation automatically.
The response from Marco, proves to me that there is no automatic system within current microstation to solve this kind of problem and I am pretty sure this is a very common problem within the civil engineering/construction industry.
Ladies and gentlemen, untill I close this discussion I would like to entertain a few more ideas.
THanks again for your contributions.
Unknown said:The response from Marco, proves to me that there is no automatic system within current microstation to solve this kind of problem and I am pretty sure this is a very common problem within the civil engineering/construction industry.
Yes you're right and you will find such "transform and warp" tools within the Bentley vertical applications like Bentley InRoads and Bentley Map!
Regards
Frank
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Hello Frank, Thank you and the other guys who have contributed to this discussion. Unless the Bentley come up with other solutions I am happy to accept this is the case for now. I need to investigate what the other guys are proposing. Whether a solution to my particular problem is found it doesn't look like a simple two step process.
We engineers have always found a way of solving our problems but we living in a matured 21st century.
Frank, can you please through a bit more light on how InRoads deals with such issue. I am InRoads literate.
Many thanks for your time and generosity.
Kind regards
Hi Cahma, as Frank also confirmed, MicorStation does not have such tools, generally more advanced and specific tolls are part of our layered applications, such as Bentley InRoads and Bentley Map in this particular instance.
One way for automating this operation in MicroStation, when several files need to be moved buy the same delta in reference to the same grid or map, is to use a simple batch process script in MicroStation's batch processor.
This will require of course to first determine the entity and directions of the one translation and one rotation needed. I used this method many times when entire projects needed to be translated from one grid system to another...all that is needed are the Delta T and Delta R between the two grid and a very simple script.