Joined the forum just to say this

I joined this forum to say just one thing and that is how utterly pathetic it is that you can't create a point in Microstation by clicking on an endpoint of a line or the center of a circle or anything... you have to visually zoom in to create a point! UNBELIEVABLE!!! I've switched from AutoCAD to Microstation because of a new job and I have to say it's really sad how most of the state highway departments get roped into using this cumbersome program.

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  • Not sure what your trying to do but sounds more like you don't know how to run the program.  Placing a point at such locations is a trivial task in MicroStation.

  • While the anger in his post may be over the top, it still warrants an answer instead of a rebuke.

    The are two primary methods of replicating osnap in MicroStation. One is unique to MicroStation but in newer versions is not as visible as it originally was. Most long time users use it. It's called a tentative snap. It requires a two button chord click on a three button mouse, unless the user changes the Button Assignments from their default setting. When used, the tentative snap shows the user where the point "can" go - hence its name - tentative. You can repeat a series of tentative snaps to try multiple locations without ever actually using the snapped to point. Many users use it to see the coordinates and/or elevation of some object's keypoint. If you are using it to preview a point placement, once the tentative snap is displaying the desired location, following it with a data point (left click) "accepts" the tentative point and you are ready for more mouse clicks.

    The other snap type is called AccuSnap. It is like AutoCAD's running osnap. When enabled, little gliphs are displayed to clue the user into the type of snap being offered.

    Both of these snap types have a "default" snap mode but allow a temporary override mode which is good for one single point before the default mode is restored. Additionally, AccuSnap has 3 Multi-snap Modes which allow you to set  more than one snap type and to assign a priority to those which are in use.

    The Tentative Snap even allows you to "Accept" a snap, but by offsetting the snap using a Polar or Cartesian offset from the snapped-to point.

    And then, any of these can be combined with Accudraw.

    For any of us who learned MicroStation before learning AutoCAD, your frustration is understood. But when I go to an Autodesk forum for help, I ask nicely and have never been rebuffed. I'd suggest a similar approach here.

    You will catch more flies with honey than with ...!

    Visit the Ask Inga Wiki Pages - they have tons of info. Although I find it more difficult to get to them is this new forum interface than in the earlier versions.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • I wonder if it might be "Data Point" or left mouse click he is referring to ?

    Timothy Hickman

    CADD Manager | CADD Department

    timothy.hickman@colliersengineering.com

    Main: 877 627 3772| 

    1000 Waterview Drive Suite 201 | Hamilton, New Jersey 08691

  • Unknown said:
    I wonder if it might be "Data Point" or left mouse click he is referring to ?

    That is what I was wandering also.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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    Yes, it's the "DP" button. If I want to create a point, I select "DP", meaning data point, but it won't let me select an end point of a line or anything, it will only allow me to zoom in and click somewhere to create the point. There should be a way to allow me to select an exact point but MicroStation won't let me.

  • As stated this is a product running on top of MicroStation.  Its like blaming AutoCAD for something Eagle Point can't do.

    Figure out what program you are running and post your question in the appropriate forum.

    If it is a Bentley product this would be a likely place to start.

    communities.bentley.com/.../5922.aspx

  • I know that InRoads contains a snap setting tool that is required to snap to elements when using AutoCAD (or it used to). If that toggle was set to "on" when using InRoads & Microstation you could not snap correctly to elements within Microstation properly. Check for some type of toggle for snap settings in the add-on product you are using.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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  • I know that InRoads contains a snap setting tool that is required to snap to elements when using AutoCAD (or it used to). If that toggle was set to "on" when using InRoads & Microstation you could not snap correctly to elements within Microstation properly. Check for some type of toggle for snap settings in the add-on product you are using.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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