Joined the forum just to say this

I joined this forum to say just one thing and that is how utterly pathetic it is that you can't create a point in Microstation by clicking on an endpoint of a line or the center of a circle or anything... you have to visually zoom in to create a point! UNBELIEVABLE!!! I've switched from AutoCAD to Microstation because of a new job and I have to say it's really sad how most of the state highway departments get roped into using this cumbersome program.

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  • Not sure what your trying to do but sounds more like you don't know how to run the program.  Placing a point at such locations is a trivial task in MicroStation.

  • While the anger in his post may be over the top, it still warrants an answer instead of a rebuke.

    The are two primary methods of replicating osnap in MicroStation. One is unique to MicroStation but in newer versions is not as visible as it originally was. Most long time users use it. It's called a tentative snap. It requires a two button chord click on a three button mouse, unless the user changes the Button Assignments from their default setting. When used, the tentative snap shows the user where the point "can" go - hence its name - tentative. You can repeat a series of tentative snaps to try multiple locations without ever actually using the snapped to point. Many users use it to see the coordinates and/or elevation of some object's keypoint. If you are using it to preview a point placement, once the tentative snap is displaying the desired location, following it with a data point (left click) "accepts" the tentative point and you are ready for more mouse clicks.

    The other snap type is called AccuSnap. It is like AutoCAD's running osnap. When enabled, little gliphs are displayed to clue the user into the type of snap being offered.

    Both of these snap types have a "default" snap mode but allow a temporary override mode which is good for one single point before the default mode is restored. Additionally, AccuSnap has 3 Multi-snap Modes which allow you to set  more than one snap type and to assign a priority to those which are in use.

    The Tentative Snap even allows you to "Accept" a snap, but by offsetting the snap using a Polar or Cartesian offset from the snapped-to point.

    And then, any of these can be combined with Accudraw.

    For any of us who learned MicroStation before learning AutoCAD, your frustration is understood. But when I go to an Autodesk forum for help, I ask nicely and have never been rebuffed. I'd suggest a similar approach here.

    You will catch more flies with honey than with ...!

    Visit the Ask Inga Wiki Pages - they have tons of info. Although I find it more difficult to get to them is this new forum interface than in the earlier versions.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • Not having access to GEOPAK, I cannot confirm all issues, but the tentative snap works with every and all commands. The AccuSnap tool requires code within any application or command to help AccuSnap. If GEOPAK's DP tool does not work with AccuSnap automatically, pressing Ctrl+Shift will temporarily make AccuSnap work on programs not written to use it and temporarily disable it on programs written to use it.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996

    Answer Verified By: Eddie S. 

  • That did it! It works! Thank you VERY much!

  • Welcome to the Forum! You are very welcome. (You can rate a post by clicking on the stars at the bottom.)


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • It was the holding down of Ctrl+Shift that did it by the way.

  • I understand your frustration. Many others here also understand as a lot of us learned on AutoCAD. There are also a lot of users who use both Microstation and AutoCAD. I did not like Microstation at first either so be patient & post specific questions related to your problems. You will receive a wealth of knowledgeable responses from many user who have experience the same issues.

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  • I understand your frustration. Many others here also understand as a lot of us learned on AutoCAD. There are also a lot of users who use both Microstation and AutoCAD. I did not like Microstation at first either so be patient & post specific questions related to your problems. You will receive a wealth of knowledgeable responses from many user who have experience the same issues.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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  • Eddie,

    You may also what to check out the Help in MicroStation.  There is a section in there that is speicifically for users migrating or moving to MicroStation.  " MicroStation for AutoCAD users"  Go to Help > Contents > Setting Up Projects> Using DWG and Other File Formats > MicroStation for AutoCAD users.  This may help in your transition from using AutoCAD to using MicroStation.  


  • BTW Eddie

    your not using microstation but something using microstation to run like say autoturn or MX in autocad...

    But we will still try to help you best we can even though you still wreek of acad fingers... please wash hands before posting again ( joke! ) happy smiley faces all round...    :)   :)   :)

    I had lots of trouble using autocad when I first was using it .... UNBELIEVABLE! but true!

    I kept feeling I was doing more typing than I was drawing and  I didnt use any text yet!  ..

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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