How to read label coordinates in layout sheet from attached references

Is there is anyway to read the original coordinates from attached models into a layout sheet?  That option will enable us to do complete drawing annotations in LAYOUT instead of having a hybrid of annotations in the model+layout.  This will improve the drawing quality and be more productive.  Hopefully someone has a method now to do it.. I'll greatly appreciate it if you can share.  Otherwise, it may be a good thing to improve for the future.  thanks in advance.

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  • This whole discussion was about reading world coordinates from a sheet model. If you bring the sheet to the model, you have to rotate the view, not the viewport (xref to the model).

    This is where you can't have a 1 to 1 discussion of AutoCAD vs MicroStation. While referencing in the model into the sheet is the equivalent to having a viewport in paperspace, and "Activating" that reference file in MicroStation is similar to switching to modelspace while in a layout, it is far from identical.

    But making the statement that AutoCAD has no limitations - on these forums, that's just asking for trouble.

    • Can you reference the paperspace into another paperspace or a model?
    • Can you reference a file to itself?
    • Can you create multiple models in a single file?
    • Can you display linetypes on 3D polylines?

    If we want to continue this discussion, we should start a new thread.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • please start a new thread "why my cads better than autocad" as I need more ammo for the acad lubbers at work  in language they can understand, no more than 2 syllables please.

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • Lorys, I know your pain.  I've been fighting that battle for 25 years and am now at the point that I am loosing.  Logic does not seem to prevail any longer.

    [V8i SS4  08.11.09.829, BRCM, Promis-e, OpenPlant Modeler, OpenPlant PID, STAAD, RAM, ProSteel, InRoads, FlowMaster, Map, PondPack, StormCAD, Descartes]

  • "Better" is a relative term.  It has different parameters for different people.  What is best solution for one person not necessarily best for for another person or company.

    Unless you specificly define those parameters and everybody agree as them it is pointless to debate it.