Hi,
Does anyone knows if I can lock text and/or data fields to prevent any graphical changes like moving or stretching?
I tried it with the level lock and the element attribute lock, but it prevents also editing texte and fill in data fields.
I hope there is a possibility to do this. If not......., I would be happy if this could be added further :)
Thanks
Regards
Raphael
What version of MicroStation are you using?
Are you using the Lock option in either the Element Information Dialog OR under the Edit menu pull down?
(Highlight the element, then go to Edit > Lock)
If these options do not work for you, can you please provide a simple example file that shows the issue?
Thank you,
Dan Koval
BSW Solutions Manager
select objects ie all the text and shapes and hit control m this will lock objects but anyone can unlock them..
another way is to to use submodels to store you work and use self ref attach to show the data in the active master model
then you can turn off locate and snap in the ref manager and you cant change text etc without doing it on purpose
Lorys
Started msnt work 1990 - Retired Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )
But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE update 16 (10.16.00.80)
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and thanks for your posts.
@ Dan
I tried both and also the level lock, but always when the element is locked, I can not editing the text or fill in data fields.
Attached a file with any sample text and datafields with information about the used lock and the problems I have.
@ Lorys
For me it could not be a solution to work with internel reference on submodels.
One reason is that I have DGN with more then 100 models (loop schematics) and creating submodels will overload the file.
I hope for a solution
Unknown said: One reason is that I have DGN with more then 100 models (loop schematics) and creating submodels will overload the file. I hope for a solution
when I say sub models I mean models self refed to the mster model...
Well I am having the same problem.
My title block text is a tag and I found that many of my colleagues delete the tag without realising it and I need to reinsert the missing tags.
I tried to lock the tags but then I cannot change the text, really frustrating. Specially because, I don't think my colleagues know how to fix the problem and just stick a normal text where the tag should be.
My suggestion is the on the option to lock should have a “locked” and a “lock manipulation” choice.
Been “lock” as a total element lock and “lock manipulation” locked for resizing, level change and position but tag edit to be possible.
I have no idea how difficult this is to add to the software but I think is a essential feature.
Hi marinallxc,
Would you mind composing your answers to match up with these questions?
It will make filing the Enhancement better if your responses line up with these specific inquiries. Thank you.
What exactly are you attempting to achieve?
Why is this change needed?
How are you currently working without this change?
How will this improve your workflow?
Are you able to provide an example/sample file that provide additional details, if so please attach it to the email with your replies?
Rapheal,
I think there is a misunderstnding going on here if a object is locked then its locked and cant be edited or deleted that is the very nature of locked ... now an experienced good user of mstn would then say to himself why is this not possible to edit this object and would then use the element information or analyze and discover the lock and or if its a tag...and then work accordingly to the correct practice....
As to correct practice of editing tags in title blocks you just have to educate your users this is our company standard and here is the documentation on what to do so follow it or you will just have to go work somewhere else... sorry to sound hard but but these are the harsh realities of drafting in a modern company .. you either follow the company standards and practices, learn the software....
( but the company has to teach it) or they go work in different field but not drafting they are not suited for it......
Unknown said:My title block text ...
Why not put text or tags in a file that you attach as a reference to the working drawing or sheet? A CAD operator can't modify objects in a reference inadvertently: you have to exchange with that reference to be able to edit it.
A further step would be to put that special annotation in a DGN file that is in a protected folder. By 'protected', I mean the usual Windows file-access control. If the CAD admin. has read/write access to that folder, and CAD operators have read-only access, then you have what you want.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
Hello Dan,
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. But I have been so busy at work and then went on holiday to de-stress.
You probably have heard this a million times but I am an original Autocad user and sometimes I try to find tools from Autocad in microstation and not always is a straight forward mission.
So I need your help to improve my skills on microstation. And I am glad you are taking your time to help me.
Here are the answers to your questions:
I am trying to find a tool that allows me to create a title block containing text with the position, font, colour and height locked but able to edit the text.
I try to do that with the “tag” tool and because I created the tag I know what to do if something goes wrong, like deleting a field not yet used.
But when I lock the text from “element information” the text locks 100% including editing.
For me this change would make a massive improvement on the dynamic of my work. This change would avoid mistakes to happen by me and others.
One of my colleagues deleted by mistake one of the text from the tag and instead of asking how to solve the problem he just “added” a normal text on the place where the tag was suppose to be. Nightmare! I found this “fixing” by chance.
The only provisional solution I found is locking all the text in the tag apart from the one with the biggest text height (drawing number).
This way I protect the tag and the person that is trying to edit it probably will try and change from the “largest” tag on the title block.
The other issue is that... If I lock all the tag and copy then past on another drawing and/or sheet I loose the locking.
Really, you have no idea what I have been through.
Everything I suggest to be implemented has been a battle, standards, seed file, change font from “WORKING” to arial, reference, cells, tag, levels (draw by level), layout, dimension and text style.
None of the above were used! And all 700+ drawings have no organization or the same method of work throughout.
Any little change that “blocks” others to mess up the drawings (seed file) would improve workflow.
I have tried to motivate people to improve their skills and get excited about learning new things in microstation (like me) but I achieved little success.
Just one of my colleagues (and my boss) seems to be enthusiastic as me. Very frustrating!
See sttachement.