VIew Attributes question

RE: VIew Attributes question

Lorys — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:32:35 GMT

[quote user="DavidG"]

I don't think there is anything wrong with using them. If I sat all day doing one thing I would probably be using them, but I don't.

......Now if Bentley had a good method of allowing users configs to be stored on an USB stick that would be a different story. I could bring my configuration with me. I just haven't come up with an easy way to do that.... yet.

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Sorry David I didnt intend it to sound like a flame.... I just love Fkey menus functionality and flexablity... and yes for the last few years I've have been with the same client/ employer doing the same stuff day in day out so Fkeys help alot ...

But when I was contract drafting from place to place for years I brought my own Fkey setup and customised macros, mdls and vba codes begged borrowed and even bought with my own hard earned these lived on usb drive (and before that a floppy disk) ..small thought it was then it worked for me... and as I too find it hard to remember what each F key combo does that why I have always used a keyboard overlay for the last 20 years which I drew in mstn printed out an cut to fit the keyboard .. from time to time I rework it or just print out a nice fresh copy ... I even have a generic default one for my fellow users which I give out and let them rework it to suit or not its up to them... but for me I'd be lost with out it... hence the back up on my usb .. and network too.... and a copy at home!

RE: VIew Attributes question

Jon Summers — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:17:29 GMT

[quote user="Lorys"]There is a short cut extension ...[/quote]

I think you mean a command-line switch. You can modify a shortcut to include one or more switches.

This article about MicroStation Command Line Switches tells more.

RE: VIew Attributes question

DavidG — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:10:05 GMT

I don't think there is anything wrong with using them. If I sat all day doing one thing I would probably be using them, but I don't.

In my case I use my function keys mainly for OS based operations, not application based operations. I have 3 VM's XP, Win 7, Win 8 + Bootcamp add to that various versions of MS to match client configurations. Its just not cost effective for me to try constantly maintain (and remember) a bunch of custom function key configurations. Additionally if I'm required to do work on site reliance on a custom configuration can be a handicap. It's hard enough dealing with all the configuration variation you and have with vanilla MicroStation let alone sorting out custom ones.

Now if Bentley had a good method of allowing users configs to be stored on an USB stick that would be a different story. I could bring my configuration with me. I just haven't come up with an easy way to do that.... yet.

RE: VIew Attributes question

Lorys — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:26:43 GMT

[quote user="DavidG"]

@mwlong. Very true, however I do not like custom configurations or using function keys :-)

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You must be jokingI

The Function key menus customisation is the most productive most greatest advantage that mstn has over most other products.. last time I looked at acad they still couldnt do it but that was 3-4 years ago...

When I see a user who doesnt customise or at least use factory F keys I see a drafter wuth one hand tied behind their back...

I love F keys menus I have lots of them.....

I have a funkey.mnu every day work plus other ones ones for special projects or other disciplines like electrical which I dont do often .. this makes me very productive and fast drafter...

RE: VIew Attributes question

martinezx — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:18:11 GMT

As suggested - Turn off all is better than open Ref dialog and turn off by selecting.

Thanks mwlong.

Tim and Maria - thanks for the tip with levels ! i never used this

RE: VIew Attributes question

mwlong — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:30:42 GMT

[quote user="Tim Hickman"]one other option would be to attach the references to a level and turn that level on or off[/quote]

Good point, I forgot about that option. I usually do that with raster attatchments.

RE: VIew Attributes question

Tim Hickman — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:19:06 GMT

one other option would be to attach the references to a level and turn that level on or off

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mwlong — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:16:46 GMT

DavidG, That's what I like about Microstation, Each user has the ability to set up and use what they like and are comfortable with. Makes workflow for each user better. I do things a lot differently than everyone esle I work with. What works for me, does not always work (or make sense) for them.

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DavidG — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:11:01 GMT

@mwlong. Very true, however I do not like custom configurations or using function keys :-)

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mwlong — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:06:40 GMT

Adding the keyin to a tool button or a Fkey would be just as fast. I do not like to use the View Attributes dialog if I do not have to.

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DavidG — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:01:00 GMT

While I usually use the Key-In mwlong mentioned but I like the idea of such a toggle in the View Attributes.

A Ctrl-B and click is certainly much faster that a key-in or mucking around with the reference dialog.

RE: VIew Attributes question

mwlong — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:51:33 GMT

You can use this keyin to turn off/on all reference files "reference display off all", "reference display on all" or "reference display toggle all". You can also use the same keyin and specify the name of single reference file.

I created a custom tool button for "reference display off all" or you could add it to a F key.

RE: VIew Attributes question

Maria Garcia — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:45:40 GMT

Hi,

Do you mean saved view instead of view attributes?

http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/attach-references-on-a-level-and-add-value-to-saved-views.aspx

Regards

Maria

RE: VIew Attributes question

Tim Hickman — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:45:35 GMT

What is the diference between opening the view attributes dialog and opening the reference file dialog ? you are still opening a dialog, it doesn't take any longer nor is it more convenient,,,,,Just open the reference file dialog, and turn off the reference display there.

RE: VIew Attributes question

Lorys — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:32:06 GMT

there is a short cut extension to not load refs when loading a dgn ....ustation.exe/ W ???? something something...

been posted here before look at askinga...

But you want to toggle see refs no see refs ... I'm sure there must be a keyin or some vba you could add to an F key to facilitate this.... it would need to be done in the display manger not the ref manager as you dont want it permanent to be change ... hmmmm I'll have to investigate further....

RE: VIew Attributes question

Andrew Bell — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:58:58 GMT

What exactly is being requested here? Are you asking for a option in the View Attributes dialog to turn on/off all references?

You mentioned that you have talked about this a few years ago. Had this been officially requested to our software developers via a Change Request? Would you happen to have a number of a Service Request or Change Request that we can locate for you?

I cannot locate a Change Request that may have been raised for this so maybe you could raise this again with SELECT support.

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