[V8i SS3 Update 2] Read access problem on an element object

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See the attached Exeption.txt for details 





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    • Prefer to attach a large amount of text as a file.
      •  It makes it easier to search and understand your problem.
    • What were you doing when this exception occurred? 
    • What product are you using? 
    • What version of that product?

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

  • I actually cannot find a way to reproduce. But it happens 3 times (count from yesterday).

    What I remember about the same condition is: I attached a dwg, I copied elements from dwg to 2D dgn. I was modifying elements which in dgn only. Last time when it pop-up, I was just deleting 2 line elements. Of course, I've immediately tried to press Ctrl+Z and delete them again, but nothing happened. Also, I always turn off the "Automatially Save Design Changes", so it should not write anything onto the disk.

    Tested with version: 08.11.09.578.

  • Are you using any other layered products? The current standalone version of MicroStation V8i SELECTseries 3 Update 2 is v08.11.09.459. Have you used that and are you seeing the same intermittent issue?

    Just curious... if you are not using any layered products, is there any particular reason why you are not using v08.11.09.459?

    BTW, we "moved" the text output to an ASCII text file, which is now attached to your original post.

      

  • There is no other layered products, the workstation only installed MicroStation V8i (08.11.09.578), GenerativeComponents (Just for fun, not for work) & ProjectWise V8i.

    This issue also occur at v08.11.09.536 yesterday in university. I installed 08.11.09.578 at office just because I found that it runs more stable on closing a file/application. After switching a new workstation and newer MicroStation V8i, those old painful issues particularly the start-up of pan drag issue are still existing on 08.11.09.578. Don't worry.

    Anyways, hope those text output can help.

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  • There is no other layered products, the workstation only installed MicroStation V8i (08.11.09.578), GenerativeComponents (Just for fun, not for work) & ProjectWise V8i.

    This issue also occur at v08.11.09.536 yesterday in university. I installed 08.11.09.578 at office just because I found that it runs more stable on closing a file/application. After switching a new workstation and newer MicroStation V8i, those old painful issues particularly the start-up of pan drag issue are still existing on 08.11.09.578. Don't worry.

    Anyways, hope those text output can help.

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  • There is another particular small issue: Microstation lose the connection of tasks. That means: an element is selected, but pressing delete is not work because the tasks bar lose the focus. I don't know if it is related.

  • Unknown said:
    This issue also occur at v08.11.09.536 yesterday in university. I installed 08.11.09.578 at office

    Most of us don't have those versions: we use the standalone version of MicroStation SS3 Update 2 available for download.  If you are using another version, provided by Bentley Systems only for use with another application, it is hard to tell whether your problem rests with MicroStation SS3 in general, or if it is related to that specific point release of MicroStation.

    Unknown said:
    I found that it runs more stable on closing a file/application

    I have never encountered problems of 'instability' when closing a file, or closing an application.  If that is a continuing problem for you, please start a new thread with that topic.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

  • If I may make a suggestion .. my observation is that in the later versions of mstn ie after xm , mstn is very unforgiving with bad acad elements... I have been persuading my users not to copy data  from DWG refed into DGN but to convert the DWG to dgn first then attach DGN to DGN  and copy whatever you want  or even merge ...

    since we adopted this policy we have not had to use axiom tools repair kit  and  had far less crashes of major files.... much more stable environment this way.... plus you can enforce standards symbology easier too....

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

  • what is the differences in procedure of the program between copying elements from DWG to DGN and exporting elements from DWG to DGN?

  • Concerning your original inquiry, we would need to work together to try to find a reproducible workflow.  With that workflow we can capture the correct logs/ data and be able to work towards a resolution.  Otherwise, it will make trouble shooting your issue very difficult.

    Have you been able to narrow down the workflow?  Is it:

    - Attach a DWG

    - Copy elements from DWG to 2D DGN

    - Modify elements in DGN

    If this appears to be the general workflow, please confirm and we can attempt to gather more information.

    Where are the files located that you are working on?

    What is the environment you are working in, both client machine and server(if accessing files off of the network)

    Thank you,

    Dan Koval

    BSW Solutions Manager