Reference hiding element types?

Hi everyone.

I have a reference which is a section through a boat, this is then noted up with dimensions and text etc to say what bits are. I want to hide all the dimensions, text, text nodes, notes etc. I can put them all to a specific level called 'Notes' then hide that level through the level manager dialog box. That is a great solution HOWEVER most of the other folks in my office don't really understand/ can't  be bothered to keep certian things on certian levels :( So I was hoping there maybe a way to hide elements by type from references. Is there a way to do this?

  • Hello,

    Have you already tried to use "Named Groups", "Display Sets", or "Item Sets"?

    Please find below a useful link regarding "Named Groups" and "Display Sets"

    communities.bentley.com/.../named-groups-displaysets-and-quick-sets.aspx

    You will find information on "Item Sets" in the Help>Working with Existing Elements>Working with Item Sets.

    Thanks and Regards,

    Alessandra

  • Thank you for the suggestions Alessandra,

    It appears the Item sets task has the function I want to create a group then hide it from view. I shall mess around with that to see how suitable it is for me.

    EDIT////

    I have just realised that to add elements into a item set you have to click on each element one at a time - It would be nice if you could use the box drag selection method...

    ANOTHER EDIT/////

    I had a thought - although the display of this item set is turned off the elements within it are still printed. Is there a way to get this item set to NOT be printed?

  • Hello,

    You could select the elements by Element Type through the Element Selection box as shown below. In this case I selected Text and Dimensions element types. Once selected you could add them to the Item Set by selecting "Add Elements" and then click on View to accept.

    Also, if you click on "Rasterized" in the Print Dialog Box, can you still see and print the elements of your Item Set (of which you have turned off the display)?

     

    If the type of elements that you would not like to see in the print output are Dimensions and Text or any of the ones specified in the list here, you could also just turn them off in “Print Attributes” before printing (print dialog box>Settings>Print Attributes).

    Thanks,

    Alessandra

     

  • Unknown said:

    HOWEVER most of the other folks in my office don't really understand/ can't  be bothered to keep certian things on certian levels :( So I was hoping there maybe a way to hide elements by type from references. Is there a way to do this?

    If as you say they cant be bothered then what is the point of any solution we put forward they  your colleages cant be bothered to maintain level standards then why are they doing drafting...

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  • Thankyou for the further information Alessandra.

    Yes looks like having the elements in the Item Set then checking the rasterise button in the print preveiw works! This appears to be the solution I am after

    It is dimensions and text [but within references] I am wanting to hide from view and not plot. So I guess using the Print attributes would disable ALL dimensions and text elements weather they are in a reference or not.

    I didn't think of using the Element Selection box as some dimensions / text are needed to be shown and some are not [depending exactly what they are denoting] I just felt intuativley the drag box selection should work...

    @ Lorys - the guys I work with were trained with pencil and paper, computers are [even now] a relativley new thing for them. No one in the office has had any formal training with the software and so it has been a case of just getting on with it and learning as we go. I have really been trying to push using references as this keeps background drawings/ info as up to date as possible. People in the office draw lines with the right colour/ style and don't think too much about how it effects things down the line with printing/ levels/ references etc. Maybe the way I'm doing things isn't the best but it is where I have got to at the minute - just trying to broaden the horizon and use the software's advantages a bit better....