Reference hiding element types?

Hi everyone.

I have a reference which is a section through a boat, this is then noted up with dimensions and text etc to say what bits are. I want to hide all the dimensions, text, text nodes, notes etc. I can put them all to a specific level called 'Notes' then hide that level through the level manager dialog box. That is a great solution HOWEVER most of the other folks in my office don't really understand/ can't  be bothered to keep certian things on certian levels :( So I was hoping there maybe a way to hide elements by type from references. Is there a way to do this?

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  • Unknown said:

    HOWEVER most of the other folks in my office don't really understand/ can't  be bothered to keep certian things on certian levels :( So I was hoping there maybe a way to hide elements by type from references. Is there a way to do this?

    If as you say they cant be bothered then what is the point of any solution we put forward they  your colleages cant be bothered to maintain level standards then why are they doing drafting...

    Lorys

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  • Thankyou for the further information Alessandra.

    Yes looks like having the elements in the Item Set then checking the rasterise button in the print preveiw works! This appears to be the solution I am after

    It is dimensions and text [but within references] I am wanting to hide from view and not plot. So I guess using the Print attributes would disable ALL dimensions and text elements weather they are in a reference or not.

    I didn't think of using the Element Selection box as some dimensions / text are needed to be shown and some are not [depending exactly what they are denoting] I just felt intuativley the drag box selection should work...

    @ Lorys - the guys I work with were trained with pencil and paper, computers are [even now] a relativley new thing for them. No one in the office has had any formal training with the software and so it has been a case of just getting on with it and learning as we go. I have really been trying to push using references as this keeps background drawings/ info as up to date as possible. People in the office draw lines with the right colour/ style and don't think too much about how it effects things down the line with printing/ levels/ references etc. Maybe the way I'm doing things isn't the best but it is where I have got to at the minute - just trying to broaden the horizon and use the software's advantages a bit better....

  • Hello,

    Happy the suggestions helped.

    As I mentioned earlier you could also use Displaysets:

    you could for example create a named group that contains all the elements you want to have displayed in a View and add it to a Displayset. With “Displayset” activated in View Attributes, the View will only show the elements you want to see and have all the others hidden.

    Thanks,

    Alessandra

  • Another option if its only certain reference files dimension and text that you do not want to display, is to use the Reference's ' Presentation ' settings and turn off the display of Text and Dimensions view flags.



  • Now that one using the display flags for the references looks good - I'll have to remember that one. Cheers Carl.

    Alessandra - I've never really liked Displaysets [mind you I've not really played around with them], I find it better to select elements to hide rather than select elements to keep visible, irrational perhaps, but it's the way my mind thinks about these things.

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  • I feel your pain Myles but there is no substitute for training and CAD standards.

    I too was drawing board trained...I was in mid 30s when I started using microstation and computers were still very new... now I'm in late 50s and have used mstn for more than 20 plus years and I'm still learning new things .. I've been very fortunate to have worked in a variety of disciplines through contracting and as staff for consultancies and government ... where I was encouraged to learn and apply it...

    there is loads of free training around  but I find if its free a lot of people  dont appreciate it ...

    This forum is a great place to learn so is

    www.eatyourcad.com

    www.envisioncad.com

    I like books to teach myself so I even bought with my own money several books on microstation.. yep my own money and not reimbursed as its my book(s) ... I believe in investing in ones own career development this will show promise and eventually the company/ employer  will invest in it too....

    I wasnt critising you or your colleagues  but if they wont learn standards and you cant teach them how to use cad properly  then how can you do any of what you ask as they will only break it or ignore it making even more pain for you and wasted effort.

    BTW If your using select support you can obtain FREE home licenses and download mstn  for your self and colleagues  this will encourage you to play with mstn and try new things even the tutorials in the help are good self training .. in addition there are some free tutorials from Bentley learn site ...

    There are also SIG's run online live instructor led training  these are advertised here often  and run by archway systems  they are excellent and only run for 1 hour including Q&A ....

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me