text styles

I got a reference file that I need the text to be one size in one sheet file and then a different size in another sheet file.  Is this possible?

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  • All depends

    But yes

    If you have an original drawing set with text  (Let us say 1' tall

    And the other two drawing reference your file and different scales

    And you have scale off then they will come it at different sizes

    If one is referenced with ref scale on and one is with scale off then yes

    You can also have two different "Drawing Models"  which are truly annotation drawings

    One uses one scale and the other another.  Then this can be even more flexible.  (preferred)  When referenced onto your sheet.

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  • eric

    i am somewhat new to microstation and not yet proficient with it.  The two different drawing models, are these models of the same reference file?  

    To elaborate a bit more on my problem.  I am a roadway designer in ga.  I am in the process of plan production.  I have reference files such as a main, required, topo, border, and several more.  To make my sheet files, I just attach all the reference files that I need, turning on and off the levels that I want shown.  My plan sheets are at a 50 scale.  My overall cover sheet is at a 400 scale.  My problem is that I need some text in the main file to show at L150 50 scale for my plan sheets and then for my cover sheet, I need that same text to show up at L150 400 scale.  Which works out to be a text height and width of 7.5' and 6', respectively for 50 scale and 60' and 48' respectively for my 400 scale cover sheet.

    Will the two drawing models do this?

  • Now for Now I am assuming a 2d drawing of a section through a building with a Left wall and a Right Wall

    I work within this drawing until it is complete

    It has all annotations and drawings

    Then I create my sheet drawing

    I reference this section twice

    reference-clip each - on e on the left side and one on the right

    I now see two reference files and I will move one towards the other.

    I can then add the breaklines.  But any change I make to one is changed to the other when "ACTIVATED"

    I will never have to correct one then the other .  They are the same file just different windows into the same file.

    I can scale text but find it to be a bad practice as only in a rare case would I want the same text scaled from one drawing to another.

    A text drawn at 1' in a model of 1/3"=1'-0" will SCALE correctly into a 1/8" scaled text drawing but NOT into a 3/4" or a 1/64"

    The text will be way to big or way to small.

    So Unless my text is scale ONLY between two drawings of near scale you are up the creek

    Always you need to start with the most appropriate scale.

    Then you can use scale OR just another version of the annotation.

    email me and we can talk as this is just to hard to explain in text.

    eric.d.milberger@nasa.gov

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • Working in roadway design also, we normally create our main design files at the most common scale (usually 25:1) and the design files are created at 1:1. The design files are referenced into a blank file and then the border is referenced in also. The border is created at 1:1 scale and then the border is scaled up when referenced into the files (ie border ref is scaled to 25:1 for 25 scale plan). All other references remain 1:1. When we assemble our front sheets (Title, Index, General Notes) we use anything from 50:1 to 2640:1. In these instances we copy in the text from the design files and change the scale of the text. We do not have a lot of text to copy in and 98% of it is existing information and is usually set at the beginning of the project. The only exception for this is our baseline file for our index sheet. We create 2 baseline files. One at the common scale and 1 at the index sheet scale.

    We have not messed with annotation scale and do not plan to.

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  • That is exactly what i am doing now.  Well kind of.  I am creating two files, with the text in question, at two different sizes.  I was just trying to get around that and have just one file in case changes need to be made, and in that case just to one file instead of two.  

  • In a perfect world we would only need to change one file. I would love to be able to have one file that encompasses all situations. The problem I see with annotation scale is depending on the justification you will need to move the text around which creates problems in other files.

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  • In a perfect world we would only need to change one file. I would love to be able to have one file that encompasses all situations. The problem I see with annotation scale is depending on the justification you will need to move the text around which creates problems in other files.

    Microstation CONNECT 10.17.00.209

    ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    Microstation v8i SS 10 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i 08.11.09.615

    ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ProjectWise 10.0.3.453

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