[V8i] How to set text to be view-dependent by default?

Running Microstation v8i, version 08.11.07.508 on 32-bit Windows 7

We recently switched from XP to Windows 7.  Since the switch, text comes in view-independent by default.

I want to it come in view-dependent by default.  It used to do this.  I've searched these forums and Google, but can't find the answer.  I'm sure there's a setting somewhere, but where?

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  • Three questions...

    1.) Is existing text in these files view-independent as well?

    2.) What happens if you open your file in a new workspace?

    3.) This is generally not a design file setting so next question is are you running in custom applications in your environment?



  • Thanks, those questions were helpful.  There's no existing text and I'm not sure how to open a file in a new workspace, but it occurred to me that all the files I've been working in lately were created by copying the same existing file.  

    So I went back an opened an old file that I never had problems with, and created a new one from a different seed file.  Those were fine.

    So how do I change the setting in a design file so text comes in view dependent by default?

  • Hmmm...I still don't see this occurring. If I rotate the view text is placed at view orientation. In the tool settings for place text what is your method set to? By default this is generally set to "By Origin".



  • I generally use type-in commands, so I don't see that setting.  

    However, I just tried placing text using the text palette.  It was set to "by origin," and it still came in with global orientation.

  • When I open the file to place text

    It comes up with a particular text style and place text by Origin

    The text places by origin and is rotated according to the world NOT the way you are viewing your data

    If I change to View Independent as with the upper of the 2 lines of text

    It will place View Independent as it should

    This placement is NOT saved as a part of the text style but a way to place text

    So to make it the default

    Open your seed - start to place text and select the style and View Independent - then save the seed

    It will now open that file View Independent until someone changes it.

    Now you can also have a macro start so every time you open the file it is View Independent

    You can also create a function key or an icon to use to start any text that includes a keyin to make it View Independent

    But There is no way I no of to make it revert ONLY to View Independent

    It to make that the first option you would need to change the keyin to start "Place text" to also include whatever is necessary to make it View Independent..

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  • Hi Eric,

    In his full description, LeighM wants the text to be view dependent (and to be placed in the orientation of that view).

    --Robert

  • Your sample file seems to have a custom ACS set up. If you rotate the view to Top then set an ACS according to the view your text can be placed correctly. For whatever reason everything keeps referencing the custom ACS. It is greyed out in the  Auxiliary Coordinates dialog so it can not be deleted.

    I don't know if this has any bearing on your situation. I do not work with custom ACS settings so this is just an observation that may lead someone more knowledgeable to your solution

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  • Your sample file seems to have a custom ACS set up. If you rotate the view to Top then set an ACS according to the view your text can be placed correctly. For whatever reason everything keeps referencing the custom ACS. It is greyed out in the  Auxiliary Coordinates dialog so it can not be deleted.

    I don't know if this has any bearing on your situation. I do not work with custom ACS settings so this is just an observation that may lead someone more knowledgeable to your solution

    Microstation CONNECT 10.17.00.209

    ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    Microstation v8i SS 10 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i 08.11.09.615

    ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ProjectWise 10.0.3.453

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