Using selectby dialog on fence

Hi all,

I wanted to find out if it is possible to use the selectby dialog only on elements enclosed in the fence or a named fence perhaps.

What are the key-ins that can use to select or set such a function.

Thank you

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  • Hi Conor K,

    Thanks for your response. I t does help a little, however, what i primarily wanted is a way to allow fence selection based on the selectby attributes i would have selected.

    This method selects everything within the cell.

    The selectby dialog executes its options on the whole design file or model. What i simply want is a way to perform the same, but on fence contents only.

    Thank you

  • Hi theGreg!

    Fences only deal with what is displayed in the particular View the Fence is placed in. You can just display what you have selected in a view using the Display Sets or Isolate option. Here is what you can do:

    - In the View Attributes for that view, make sure that the Displayset is turned On.

    Select (highlight) the elements you want to control using a fence. It doesn't matter how you select the elements.

    Depending on the version of MicroStation you have (I have (Ss3) Update 2) you can Rt. Click (hold) in the view and bring up the Rt Click Menu. In my version there is an "Isolate" option. Choose "Isolate" and the view should just display just those items you had selected. You can now use the fence to manipulate the displayed items.

    The "Isolate" is just adding the elements you had selected, to a Displayset. Older versions did not have the "Isolate" they just had the Display Sets tool and you could access it thru the Shift + Rt. Click menu  or thru the Named Groups tool under the Utilities pull-down.

    To get rid of the Isolate/Displayset you can use the option to Clear Displayset or Isolate Clear they are both the same.

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  • Unknown said:
    The selectby dialog executes its options on the whole design file or model. What i simply want is a way to perform the same, but on fence contents only.

    Have you filed a change request (CR), I would like to attach to this CR and such an approach!

    Regards

    Frank

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  • HI All,

    Thank you Frank for your suggestion. I'm afraid i am not familiar with a change request (CR). Can you please explain it to me and how i can go about implementing one.

    Thank you

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  • Try using the power selector and by polygon its  like a fence  then in the additional options choose colour, element type, level

    and take out all the ones you dont want ..  slower than select by but works from a placed series of points to create a temporary transient shape like a fence

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  • Heres an alternative work flow

    make a back up file,  place your fence and copy out by SF=file name

    This will remove the fenced selection from your file to a new file of choice  then do what you have to from this new file  with Selectby  once finished editing  then ref attach it to the the original file and merge ref..

    As you haven't detailed exactly what you want selectby to do its a bit hard to be definitive

    Lorys

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  • Ho Lorys,

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    I was trying to avoid the workflow you suggested in your last post.

    What I have is an electrification drawing with a set of zones/regions defined by shape elements.

    Each zone has a similar set of elements, which are of type line, cell, and text, all in predefined levels, colors, weights and styles.

    My current workflow is that I select a shape, create a fence from it, and perform a function/search of particular elements on selected fence.

    The selectby dialog will select the whole file, and not the fence i want.

    I wanted to avoid creating a new file and merging.

    The "Find/Replace Text" dialog has an option to limit search to a defined fence. What i want is that option for selectby attributes dialog box.

    I hope the question is clearer.

    Regards,

  • Couldn't you work in reverse?

    Select (all the elements) in the area if interest > pair down to what you want/need > Isolate the selected elements using a DisplaySet > Do what you need to do > Then Un-Isolate/Clear the Displayset.

    When the Displayset is all you see, thats all you can modify and the Displayset display is a View Attribute you can turn On/Off per view. The "Find/Replace Text" and almost all other M-Sta tools, will only work on elements displayed in the view.

    If in a 3D file you can also use Clip Volume to isolate an area to display.

    Another idea is to create an empty cell library and create cells of the various areas. This will create individual models in the Cell Library and since a Cell library is just a renamed dgn you can open each cell, do what you need to do and you can reference/replace the information with the modified information in the cell.

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  • I havent yet tried this  but here is my idea

    do the select by and execute these object will now all be selected right?

    now look at the power selector it should have a whole bunch of stuff selected  so now you set the negative or un select by shape ( its the box one in icon) now  trace the box around the shapes that contain what you dont want to process an  it should deselect just those  and leave the ones in your specific shapes you didnt deselect, repeat until only the ones you want remain selected .. sort of the opposite of what you wanted the fence to do ...

    Theres always a work around when you understand what people have to achieve with what they have...

    gota go to dinner so no chance to test my idea  but logically should work...

    what is it you need to change in these elements maybe a macro would be better to process everything ...

    Lorys

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