i am trying to print a fence but i can't seem to make it fit into a paper size how do I scale?
Thank you,
Roland Cyr
CE Update 7 - Version 10.07.00.39
If you not using sheet models
Then one way is to draw a rectangle the actual size of a paper size eg if you want A3 then draw this to A3 if you work in metres I suggest you draw it 297Mx420M
This then is 1:1000 times scale for the real world to print to paper @1:1000, now if this is either too big or too small then scale again ...the right mouse button menu has scale in it then place it to cover the area I want to print and scales accordingly to standard scale numbers, then place fence by block and just control p choose your paper and it should match perfectly to the scale you choose..
Alternative place a block fence and use visual judgment that it should be 1:1.4 or 1:1.5 length to width
then control p and your print dialog has your default paper size change to what you want it and maximise now the autoscale will kick in if you want a scale closer to standard scales you just manually enter the scale in the space and as long as the feced area is smaller than the scale size chosen it will shrink or expand to fit the scale to that paper, be warned you may either trim or have a lot of wasted margin but it will be true scale to a prefered number like 1:100, 200. 500 etc
Personally I have a cell for this just a rectangle with concentric rectangles these labelled withall the sheet sizes and are construction layer elements and also set to non print level.. all have common point left hand bottom corner, took less than 5 mins to build and saves me loads of time and still counting)
then I just place that sheet size diagram cell over the top and can see what sheet fits best placed at 1;1000 (default setting in my F key sets the scale to 1000) but was drawn 1:1 in cell library)
then I can just scale it or change its properties etc then place my fence by element and pick the sheet size I want ... later delete the cell or turn it off.. its just for quick plots, also have another cell useful for roll plots A0 wide and 2m or 3m long ....saves making a temporary sheet model... sometimes the old school ways can be the quickest and easiest for just one off plots etc....
Lorys
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Here is another way to approach this. Place your fence around the area to be plotted. Activate the Print dialog (see below). Pick the paper size (my choice is ANSI B) and orientation (portrait/landscape) that best fits what you want to print. Then hit the "Maximize" button. When I did this, the scale was 38.9338. Then change the scale value to the next largest integer number that represents a relevant scale factor (in this case, 40). A larger scale value results in a smaller plot, meaning it all fits on the page. So, in my example, I can print the area in the fence on a B sized sheet at 1"=40'.
Our default sheet borders are created at 1=1, so a B sized border is 11'x17'. I can attach the border as a reference file and set the scale to 40:1, so the border is set to print at 1"=40'.
Unknown said: Here is another way to approach this. Place your fence around the area to be plotted. Activate the Print dialog (see below). Pick the paper size (my choice is ANSI B) and orientation (portrait/landscape) that best fits what you want to print. Then hit the "Maximize" button. When I did this, the scale was 38.9338. Then change the scale value to the next largest integer number that represents a relevant scale factor (in this case, 40). A larger scale value results in a smaller plot, meaning it all fits on the page. So, in my example, I can print the area in the fence on a B sized sheet at 1"=40'. Our default sheet borders are created at 1=1, so a B sized border is 11'x17'. I can attach the border as a reference file and set the scale to 40:1, so the border is set to print at 1"=40'.
FYI I work 90% in model space so having to select a fence even if I have a sheet border placed as a ref and clipped so does not exceed the sheet border is a pain in the buttweld... I found that there is a variable you can set in your config so it finds the extent of your drawing which in my and probably yours too is the sheet border .. with this variable set then just control p will make mstn draw the fence for you and it surrounds your sheet border.. pretty cool or what?
------------------( I use the 2 because my sheet border is a ref file)-----------------------------
If MS_PLT_AUTO_FIT_VIEW is set to '1' or '2', the print dialog automatically sets the print area mode to 'Fence' when first invoked. A value of '1' constructs a fence that encompasses all the elements in the master file. A value of '2' constructs a fence that encompasses all the elements in the master file and all its references. If an active fence or sheet is defined when the print dialog is invoked, this configuration variable is ignored.