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[V8i] Update Sheet boundary in Print Organizer?

MaryB
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This has been around for quite a while, and I'm sure I'm just overlooking a setting somewhere...

There are times where we create sheets, then add them to a PSET in Print organizer - and then (later) we need to move the sheet border/boundary. AT this point, out PSET will not recognize the changed sheet boundary, and will print whatever is visible on the old sheet boundary instead. The only way we have found to "update" our PSET to use the new sheet boundary location is to delete the sheet from the PSET (save the PSET) and add it back in. When added back in, it automatically defaults to the bottom of the list, and needs to be moved up to its place in the proper order of things.

As you can imagine, this process is rife with the opportunity for user error. People forget that the sheet boundary was moved and they don't update the PSET. They delete the sheet from the PSET and forget to put it back in. They don't get the re-added sheet into the proper order.

All because Print Organizer does not seem to be able to read a file and "see" that the sheet boundary has been moved.

Is it really this difficult, or are we missing a setting that could do away with this hassle? Is there a better workaround?
(Is Connect better about this than V8i)

Thank you.
MaryB
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    Mary,

    Are any of the applicable Print Definitions within the .pset based the same Design File (i.e. multiple Sheets within a single Design File), or are all of them based on separate Design Files (i.e. one Sheet per Design File)? If the latter, you can always update the Boundary for each Print Definition, by:

    1. Selecting the desired Print Definitions within your .pset.
    2. Right-click on the collection, and choose Properties.
    3. Click on the Fence tab.
    4. Click Define from shape.
    5. Specify the Properties for your Shape Boundary. Then, click OK.
    6. Set your Size and scale, and Origin settings (for good measure).
    7. Click OK to the Modify Properties window.

    Your Print Definition Area should now reflect the adjusted Sheet Border/Boundary.

    Important Notes:

    • Be sure that your Shape Boundary is unique (you don't want "the wrong" shape to be found/used).
    • The above workflow will set the Print Definition Area for the first applicable Shape Boundary found. So, this will cause you issues for Print Definitions, which share the same originating Design File (i.e. multiple sheets within one Design File).

    Tom's recommendation works really well also. One other thing to note with Variable Print Definitions is that you cannot selectively print Sheets originating from a Design File (i.e. print Sheets 2, 5, and 8 of 20, all of which reside in a single Design File). When you print a Variable Definition, you get all of the Sheets within the Design File, at print time.

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    Mary,

    Are any of the applicable Print Definitions within the .pset based the same Design File (i.e. multiple Sheets within a single Design File), or are all of them based on separate Design Files (i.e. one Sheet per Design File)? If the latter, you can always update the Boundary for each Print Definition, by:

    1. Selecting the desired Print Definitions within your .pset.
    2. Right-click on the collection, and choose Properties.
    3. Click on the Fence tab.
    4. Click Define from shape.
    5. Specify the Properties for your Shape Boundary. Then, click OK.
    6. Set your Size and scale, and Origin settings (for good measure).
    7. Click OK to the Modify Properties window.

    Your Print Definition Area should now reflect the adjusted Sheet Border/Boundary.

    Important Notes:

    • Be sure that your Shape Boundary is unique (you don't want "the wrong" shape to be found/used).
    • The above workflow will set the Print Definition Area for the first applicable Shape Boundary found. So, this will cause you issues for Print Definitions, which share the same originating Design File (i.e. multiple sheets within one Design File).

    Tom's recommendation works really well also. One other thing to note with Variable Print Definitions is that you cannot selectively print Sheets originating from a Design File (i.e. print Sheets 2, 5, and 8 of 20, all of which reside in a single Design File). When you print a Variable Definition, you get all of the Sheets within the Design File, at print time.

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