Hello community,
since we upgraded to the Connect Edition (CE) the behaviour of 3D-PDFs changed.
Here are the problems we encounter:
Difference in file size for the same model:
Opening time for 3D-PDFs created with CE:
Here is a picture of the "unfinished render":
The interesting thing is: If we create the 3D-PDFs of the exact same model with V8i, they are smaller in file size, they open much faster (in just a few seconds) and we do not see the “unfinished render”.
Interesting Fact: Sometimes the Acrobat Reader changes to “not responding” for a short time, but that is not always the case.
Sometimes the Acrobat Reader even says: “This file cannot be shown with the Acrobat Reader. The program will close now.” (It is not the exact message, I translated it, because I am running a machine which is set to german.)
The "look" of the 3D-PDFs:
Another thing that I am irritated about is the “look” of the 3D-PDF. The one created with the V8i looks a bit more “shiny” and the one created with CE looks a bit “dull”. We use the same setup for printing the 3D-PDF in V8i and CE. Does anybody have an idea what could cause these differences?
I added two screenshots that show the different looks of the 3D-PDFs. (We imported the print settings from V8i to CE, so they should be the same for both versions).
Screenshots:
(As an example file we just put together some random pipelineworks.)
3D-PDF created with CE (looks a bit dull and not as "shiny" as the one created with V8i).
3D-PDF created with V8i (looks a bit more "shiny" than the one created with CE).
Example Files:
The example files are just a bunch of pipelines thrown together randomly, as we can not show you real projects.
To see the effects described above it is important that the files have a certain amount of equipment in them, otherwise the difference in loading times is to short to see. That is why the files are relatively big and we had to upload the to the WeTransfer Page.
Here you can find two 3D-PDFs and the DGN file they where both created from, one time using Connect Edition, the other one using V8i.
https://we.tl/t-uPt2bxGlNe
Hi Rob,unfortunately I did not find a solution that really solves this. It got a little better here and there with the updates I think, but we are now "used" to it.
The SR was closed on March 15th 2022. I am not sure if this is the same date the defect got "solved".
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Currently using:
OpenPlant Modeler - Version: 10.09.00.74
[MicroStation - Version: 10.14.02.01]
Hi Florian. Sorry to bring up an old thread but this is exactly the problem i am having. 3D pdfs fine from v8i but terrible from CONNECT. Take ages to load/freeze and much larger file size. Would love to know if you ever found a resolution. Cheers
For those who are interested: My last Service Request was raised to a defect and the development team is now working on the issue. Defect-ID is: 277423Attached Service Request is: 7000972269
Try no. 2 my previous message was declared as spamHello, Mr. Schilling,I am also in the support right now, I had also referred to this thread. Now it came out until he sent me a video - that the "support-person" where everything works perfectly, unfortunately 3D was disabled in the PDF.so each of the created files opened immediately and without problems!but that's not the point of a 3d pdf, you want to move around in it - otherwise i could print a rastered isometric view.that's what i pointed out now - let's see what comes.you are right, but unfortunately my english is not as good as yours, so i had the most important posts translated by me via deepl-translator and changed them accordingly.
Hello, Mr. Schilling,I am also in the support right now, I had also referred to this thread. Now it came out until he sent me a video - that the "support-person" where everything works perfectly, unfortunately 3D was disabled in the PDF.so each of the created files opened immediately and without problems!but that's not the point of a 3d pdf, you want to move around in it - otherwise i could print a rastered isometric view.that's what i pointed out now - let's see what comes.you are right, but unfortunately my english is not as good as yours, so i had the most important posts translated by me via deepl-translator and changed them accordingly.
Hallo Herr Schilling,ich bin mit dem Support auch gerade dran, ich hatte zudem auf diesen Thread verwiesen. Nun kam raus das beim "supportler" alles tadellos funktioniert, bis er mir ein Video geschickt hat, tja leider war 3D in der PDF deaktiviert, somit ging jeder der erzeugten Dateien unverzüglich und ohne probleme auf!nur das ist ja nicht der sinn einer 3d pdf, man möchte sich ja drin bewegen - denn sonst könnte ich auch eine gerastert isometrische ansicht drucken.darauf hab ich nun hingewiesen - mal schauen was kommt.Sie haben recht, nur ist leider mein Englisch nicht so gut wie ihres, daher habe ich die wichtigsten posts von mir via deepl übersetzen lassen und entsprechend geändert.