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[CONNECT] Is there any settings in Print Organizer to automatically change Paper Size?

Shyam Lama
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Using Microstation Connect Edition 12 here.

  • Our workspace uses single design model (no sheet models) with a dgn reference attached as a border. 
  • Have created pltcfg file with paper sizes defined as A1 (841,594mm) and A2 (594, 420mm) with A2 as a default.
  • Have created printstyles with settings in Main tab (paper size not selected, full sheet ticked, layout size/scale maximize), Fence Tab fence creation methods to fit to master model and all reference files.

Our Printer can print paper sizes A1 (841,594mm) and A2 (594, 420mm) 

When I'm using print organizer to create a print definitions i add files and select my print style.

What I want to find out is, is there a way for Print Organizer to automatically change Paper Sizes based on my border reference?

For example: 

When i add 3 files in print organizer, it all loads up in Print Organizer as A1 Paper Size. One of the drawing has a A2 border reference attached so is there some setting somewhere i can change so it will load up the paper size as A2?

I realise that from the list you can just select that particular file and change properties to A2 paper. And trust me, i have been doing this for some time. But when i need to print 100 drawings that consists of A1 & A2 border, it is really time consuming to preview those files to find out which border it is and then to select them and change the properties. 

It will be easier if Print Organizer can automatically change Paper Size when i add files? Any suggestions?

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    Apologies in advance for the "no answer", but using sheet models will take care of this and other things.

    Connect r17 10.17.2.61 self-employed-Unpaid Beta tester for Bentley

  • 0 Offline in reply to Bob Rayner

    Hi Bob, Thank you for your reply. 

    I am aware that using sheet models will take care of this print organizer issue and various other issues. But at this stage and for some foreseeable future, without going into too much details on why, my workplace will be stuck with using design model for all drafting work (70,000 + drawings). 

    So, if someone have any trick or some settings somewhere that can help me fix this issue, that'll be great. Thanks. 

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    I haven't heard of anything like that.

    MaryB

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    This will not help PO but some tricks 

    when I used to  have to have different size plans in my project I either saved them in separate folders as they were created ie

    \A1_drawings 

    \A3_drawings

    \A2_drawings

    or I would use  _A3  _A2 _A1    etc as part of the drawing file name...would make it easier in future to create separate PO's by paper size

    If either of these is not  permitted  then  when you open a drg or create a drawing  you can press Alt enter and put in a title  which for you is A1, A2 , etc

    Then in the mstn manager  add the title attribute to the top row via the rmb and tick title on, this will also be supported by win explorer so you can see all the paper sizes 

    The only other way I know to help was I had a v8i Basic macro that would scan entire folder of drawings and create a report of all the ref attachments.. .I dont think I ever got a  vba one that worked as well and listed all the ref attachments to each drawing... then if you had that  you could filter  the title block ref name size  in excel and work out which prints go in which PO ... by size....pm me later and I'll see if I have any vbas or bas that could help ( bas only runs inV8i ok)

    For Connect you should be able to create a report  and filter the ref file name which indicates the paper size .. Jon Sumers from LA solutions UK ahs posted such a report.dgnlib... but I'm still learning CE and couldn't get it to work  but I'm doing something wrong... do a search for report  xrefs  in the microstation forum not the printing forum...

    Lorys

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    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • 0 Offline in reply to Lorys

    Thanks very much Lorys. I will look into your suggestion and will get back on this later.

    In the meantime, I was looking into Named Expression as a way to atleast indicate files with the border name as a Print definition name (within the Print Organizer).

    For example:

    <Source file name>-<model name>

    System.Path.GetFileNameWithoutExtension (PrintDefinition.SourceFile) & "-" & PrintDefinition.MasterModelName

    This outputs Print Definition Name as MyDGNFileName-Default

    Can we have similar expression but replace model name with reference name? Do you have a working expression for this?

    So that it outputs Print Definition Name as MyDGNFileName-A1 or MyDGNFileName-A2.

    Thanks.

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