What affects sequence when plotting?

I have a single level in a nested reference in an existing  survey motif that is plotting above design, all 2D files

I have the priority of the level set to -200 in the nested reference, then I have the motif referenced in the sheet file with "never" overrides. I have the motif at the top of the sequence order in my references.

I then have my pentable set up so that the nested reference logical name is plotted at -200, the design motif is plotted at 200, and even wrote in the pentable to have the level in the nested reference plot at -200.

It STILL plots on top. I have tried enabling "non-rasterized priority sort mode" and it results in all my survey being plotted above my design. I am stumped. Is there anything else that can screw with the priority when plotting?

To summarize, I have used the following methods to make survey plot behind:

  • Negative priority in design file, referenced with never override
  • File moved to top of sequence in references
  • Used the pentable to have both the nested reference, and the level in the nested reference plot at a negative priority (and have it at the bottom of the pentable list to be the final action)

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  • Not sure from your language, but did you adjust this-

    If so, I would start with a generic pltcfg, no pen table to test. The add stuff back one at a time.

    I adjusted my work flow to make everything WYSIWYG (except linecodes 0-7, and weights, working on that) years ago, I won't go back. Of course that's not possible when you're forced to use other's configuration/standards.

    Connect r16 10.16.03.11 self-employed

  • If so, I would start with a generic pltcfg, no pen table to test.

    I think Bob is on the right track here. I would go back and remove all priorities and pen table settings. Start from the beginning & keep it simple. Applying too many settings can cause just as many issues. Some of the settings can be cumulative as well. Best example of something I ran into when transparency was first introduced, I had some shading in a drawing and I hade the level set to 50% transparency. In my plot driver I had the color for that shading set to 50% transparent as well. When the file was printed there was no shading because the 2 separate transparency settings were added together to make the shading 100% transparent.

    Once you are back to the beginning I would go to the container file of the nested reference and set all display priorities and reference sequences in that file. Create a plot and see what you get. I would not change any settings in the sheet file as the container file should control everything for the reference files attached to it.

    It can be a tedious process, but once you figure it out you know what to look for in the future. Nested files can be tough to deal with. 

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  • If so, I would start with a generic pltcfg, no pen table to test.

    I think Bob is on the right track here. I would go back and remove all priorities and pen table settings. Start from the beginning & keep it simple. Applying too many settings can cause just as many issues. Some of the settings can be cumulative as well. Best example of something I ran into when transparency was first introduced, I had some shading in a drawing and I hade the level set to 50% transparency. In my plot driver I had the color for that shading set to 50% transparent as well. When the file was printed there was no shading because the 2 separate transparency settings were added together to make the shading 100% transparent.

    Once you are back to the beginning I would go to the container file of the nested reference and set all display priorities and reference sequences in that file. Create a plot and see what you get. I would not change any settings in the sheet file as the container file should control everything for the reference files attached to it.

    It can be a tedious process, but once you figure it out you know what to look for in the future. Nested files can be tough to deal with. 

    Power InRoads v8i 08.11.09.615

    Microstation CONNECT 10.16.02.34

    Microstation v8i SS 10 08.11.09.919

    ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ProjectWise 10.0.3.453

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