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Print Organizer - Printing a file with multiple sheets

bbuenger

Printing Scenario:  Adding a file to print organizer that has multiple borders in one model of one file.  (i.e. for this example, let's use 100 borders referenced into one model in one file.)  When I add this file to Print Organizer, and select a Print Style, everything loads OK.  It locates the borders, and adds one entry per border located in the file.  When I print this file, it will print sheets 1 through 100, in order, with no duplicates.

The issue occurs if I make changes to any of the following settings in Print Organizer after the pset file is created: Bentley print driver, windows printer, or print style. This will result in Print Organizer printing sheet number 1, 100 times, instead of printing sheets 1 through 100.  Depending on what has changed, Print Organizer may also override the scales and paper sizes.

This causes issues when multiple people are using the same pset file, and someone wishes to change the printer, etc.  I do have a workaround (create a pset file for individual printers, PDF's, and styles, which isn't ideal because every pset will have to managed individually and opens the potential for someone to miss a sheet or two), however, I can't tell you how many calls I get about this problem and someone has just printed 100 of the same sheets to a printer!

I am running Microstation v8i SS2, this issue has been present in SS1 and v8i.  I tried searching the message boards and didn't find anything, perhaps due to the weakness of the search engine... which is a topic for another day...

I'd greatly appreciate any input on this issue, thanks in advance!

  • Offline in reply to AGranquist

    Certain print workflows may depend on the design file being writeable. For a test try one of the following options.

    In Print Organizer select Edit > Preferences and uncheck “Open design files in read-only mode”  

    Or, If MS_PRINTORGANIZER_OPEN_DGN_READWRITE is set to 1, the Print Organizer background process opens design files in read-write mode.

    Also, make sure a Print Style is not defining Level on\off settings.



  • Offline in reply to mwlong

    All - Sorry to resurrect this thread but it seemed like the most relevant of the ones I found.

    I am having trouble with PO updating the levels that are on or off from the design file.  I followed the instructions found here: communities.bentley.com/.../7203.aspx but certain levels are continuing to print even though they are turned off in the design file.

    Any help is much appreciated.

  • Offline in reply to Jo Terri Wright

    Unknown said:
    For the next release of MicroStation we are adding a new type of print definition called Flex print definitions. Flex print definitions dynamically discover models and shapes at print time.  When you add a design file to Print Organizer you will also select a print style, which defines the printable area (if it is not already defined in the Print Preferences, ie – All sheet models) and how the plot should look. What you will see in Print Organizer is one plot definition in the list per design file just as you do in Batch Print today, not all the enumerated plots.

     

    Thanks for the update. This addition will make a world of difference as we all make the transition from Batch Print to PO.

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  • Offline in reply to bbuenger

    There are a few topics that I want to address that have come up in this thread.

    • For the next release of MicroStation we are adding a new type of print definition called Flex print definitions. Flex print definitions dynamically discover models and shapes at print time.  When you add a design file to Print Organizer you will also select a print style, which defines the printable area (if it is not already defined in the Print Preferences, ie – All sheet models) and how the plot should look. What you will see in Print Organizer is one plot definition in the list per design file just as you do in Batch Print today, not all the enumerated plots. This means that newly added models or print areas will be dynamically discovered at plot time without having to recreate or alter your print set. The existing behavior of having print definitions enumerated when design files are added to the print set is now called CAD print definitions and this is the default behavior. Stay tuned for more details in the next week or two.
    • Blain, the issue that you brought up about the first sheet getting printed 100 times after changing the printer or print style needs to be logged with support. They will need to see the design file, print styles, etc. to help you troubleshoot this issue.
    • To comment on Adam’s suggestion, we have several users that print to PDF first and then submit them to a physical printer for hardcopy.  
    • Per Rod’s suggestion, we have the ability in InterPlot Organizer to create sheet models back into a design file based on the print definition. I am not sure how many users actually took advantage of it though. In a perfect world, everyone would use sheet models, but we’re not there yet.

    As we get closer to a new release of MicroStation, I will be sure to post info on what we are updating with plotting in addition to Flex print definitions.

    Regards,

    Jo Terri


    This is a test

  • in reply to Adam Wuellner

    Adam - Not a bad idea.  I've heard of a few other consultants going this route.  Thanks for the reply.

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