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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/microstation_printing/f/printing-and-plotting-forum/96248/pdf-print-screen-quality</link><description>Hi, 
 
 We predominantly issue many of our drawings in PDF format, and what I have noticed is issues with fonts (on screen) in adobe acrobat (pro &amp;amp; reader). I have attached two file formats PDF and JPEG. In both files formats we have attached text which</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281349?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:07:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:2fea3b91-0c3e-4f7a-8404-966a14418965</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Andrew. &amp;nbsp;I don&amp;#39;t think its hinting. &amp;nbsp;That is used to render text (on screen) when it is very small. &amp;nbsp;You can zoom on these PDF&amp;#39;s so one letter fills the whole screen and the geometry is measurably different.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281346?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:14:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:2c6951b6-1365-491c-97c0-cee20709a021</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes I can see again you have height to width variations as well as variations in the kerning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can not reproduce this on my end. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I&amp;#39;m also not getting the facets on Arial that you have. &amp;nbsp; Perhaps old RSC files are being used? &amp;nbsp;Not sure, sorry but this is getting beyond my ability to trouble shoot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281336?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:44:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:39404129-af27-41ab-8878-043f9d969e9f</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Edge</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;TrueType font hinting is best explanation I have. &amp;nbsp;When text is text, the rendering engine can use hints in the font to draw the glyphs differently depending on the zoom level. &amp;nbsp;That&amp;#39;s going to produce the best quality. &amp;nbsp;When text graphics are simply polygons, as MicroStation draws them, then those graphics do not change with the zoom level.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281334?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:32:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:c7769cb9-140a-4661-af96-584aa1fadbdd</guid><dc:creator>Kieran Gilman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;david,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;attached is a PDF example of the arial font both bentley and ttf, and you can clearly see there are issues with the J, i, l&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andrew we have checked the acrobat settings that you mentioned and all were set accordingly&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><enclosure url="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/00-19568-01-00-00-28-13-34/font-test.pdf" length="21580" type="application/pdf" /></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281331?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:14:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3c0386e1-b5af-43ce-8de5-5ca57b13ae25</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Definitely &amp;nbsp;something weird here. &amp;nbsp;The Letters (in MS) are about 5% shorter and a touch wider, however the kerning appears tighter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281319?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:27:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:66a17ad1-0cef-46b5-8e08-d1adb54f0396</guid><dc:creator>Kieran Gilman</dc:creator><description>&lt;div style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andrew thanks... I will look into that and let you know&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;David, yes you are right it is the light version and yes they were all purchased and&amp;nbsp;loaded into&amp;nbsp;windows. My only comment to what you have said is this also happens to the everyday standard arial font as well.........&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; 10 April 2014 14:40&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That is what I though. &amp;nbsp;That is an OS X Fonts. &amp;nbsp;Are you using Light or Regular, Looks like Light? &amp;nbsp;Did you purchase them and load all versions for Windows? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;MicroStation may be swapping it out for Helvetica.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281315?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:40:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:bd9d6c7a-4577-4d8f-b304-964adb2f948d</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Kieran Gilman&amp;quot;]t is Helvetica Neue[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is what I though. &amp;nbsp;That is an OS X Font. &amp;nbsp;Are you using Light or Regular, Looks like Light? &amp;nbsp;Did you purchase them and load all versions for Windows? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;MicroStation may be swapping it out with Helvetica or Aerial.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281265?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 01:11:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:2b814abf-3494-42cd-b87d-7e1fc2a77e38</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Edge</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The name of the setting varies in different versions of Acrobat, but look for Edit / Preferences / General / Page Display / Smooth Line Art. &amp;nbsp;See if enabling that option improves the appearance of the MicroStation-authored text graphics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suspect that your PDF viewer is configured to smooth text but not line graphics. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, bring up your pdf.pltcfg in the printer driver configuration editor and set PDF Precision to &amp;#39;Improved&amp;#39;, if it isn&amp;#39;t already.&amp;nbsp; That should improve text quality, with a tradeoff in PDF file size.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Writing text as true PDF text from a CAD application is a difficult proposition (applications such as Word and InDesign don&amp;#39;t have to deal with RSC fonts, 3D reference transforms and non-rectangular clip fences, camera perspective, etc.). &amp;nbsp; Invisible &amp;quot;searchable&amp;quot; text is the common answer to those problems. &amp;nbsp;That said, &amp;#39;text as PDF text&amp;#39; functionality is on our radar. &amp;nbsp;Contacting Bentley support and opening formal service tickets for issues such as these helps in raising attention and setting of development priorities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281263?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:20:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:9bd97d65-e8f8-455a-a32b-af0968a09809</guid><dc:creator>Kieran Gilman</dc:creator><description>It has been created using the pdf pltcfg, (however may not have been updated for quite some time) with a slight modification to the enable additional content=&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281261?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:11:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:574901b0-8032-44f1-9104-8c4934c4e2d6</guid><dc:creator>Phil Chouinard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Could you identify how you are generating the PDF output? Are you using the PDF pltcfg that is delivered with MicroStation? Is it customized? Are you using something else?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281256?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:43:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:6ff47352-7f6e-4b26-9c96-3b330972fbd4</guid><dc:creator>Kieran Gilman</dc:creator><description>It is Helvetica Neue, but we do see this problem with the standard arial ttf&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281254?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:30:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:556d123a-b36c-4d31-b737-0fa9dd3f9018</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;What font are you using for the top an bottom lines?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281244?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 19:37:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3054ba00-6bfe-42b3-a3d3-dc368bdd9a6c</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;It is not uncommon for CAD users to change the Height to Width Ratio of Text. &amp;nbsp;Its a setting that predates the use of TrueType fonts in CAD. &amp;nbsp;That may be what your seeing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;Also when creating PDF&amp;#39;s MicroStation doesn&amp;#39;t actually insert the Font into the PDF. &amp;nbsp;It is stroked out text to filled shapes. &amp;nbsp;That could also lead to a mismatch when printing if the Printer Font for your Acrobat file doesn&amp;#39;t exactly match the System Font used for screen display.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edit, sorry I miss read your last post. &amp;nbsp; Would be easier to trouble shoot with a sample file.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281238?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 18:59:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:c19f8a9e-8d05-4ba8-b941-bf02906f050a</guid><dc:creator>Kieran Gilman</dc:creator><description>David,&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately not, but I can confirm all the text is the same height and width.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the pdf is printed, everything is fine within reason. But with majority of the pdf wanting to be presented on  the large screen for major client presentations, it can somewhat look as though there is a flaw with the text (even though it isn&amp;#39;t as mentioned above).&lt;br /&gt;
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I have seen this before from other companies we work with using microstation but thought nothing of it because it prints ok. We have thought it was a resolution thing, but sadly not........&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281236?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 18:28:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:2d4617f1-f61e-44a4-b116-9194c4e79b71</guid><dc:creator>DavidG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Can you supply a DGN? &amp;nbsp;It appears to me the MicroStation Text (bottom) is shorter. &amp;nbsp;Check you text settings and make sure height and width are the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DavidG&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: pdf print/screen quality</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/281226?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:38:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:6c021226-51d2-4e6d-a1f7-03245c7737ca</guid><dc:creator>Kieran Gilman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;attached is the second file&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><enclosure url="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/00-19568-01-00-00-28-12-26/Title-Sheet-Comparison.jpg" length="1335449" type="image/jpeg" /></item></channel></rss>