In v8i I'm able to select these objects or snap to points along the yellow line THROUGH the glass box.
In CE it seems I'm not able to do so. What am I doing wrong?
PS. I have Disable Drag Operations checked in both v8i and CE, but I don't think this is related to the problem.
What setting have you got under;
File > Settings > User > Preferences > Input > Locate Interiors
In v8i the default was Never, and in connect it seems to be Visible
Thanks - I've now tried all options; Never/ Visible/ Always.
Never; will not select anything inside the glass box (no matter how far in I zoom)
Visible; First attempt at a tentative snap always shoots to a keypoint on the edge of the glass box, second attempt will select the object I want.
Always; same as Visible.
v8i quickly and accurately selects the geometry I want - something must be wrong with my CE settings, or is this standard behavior in CE. I really hope not.
By the way - it something wrong with the Communities site? Posts take several minutes to load.
In CE I have set my "Locate Interiors" option to "Always" and it does find points hidden on the other side of shaded geometry, but you have to tentative several times to "drill" through the object. Something has has changed from v8i as it seem to order the "drilling" by "depth", and not "point closest too", the tentative point.
However also look at UN-TICKING the: AccuSnap settings box > Elements > Find Elements By: > Interior of Filled Elements
in my opinion, what mentioned Robert Jones should solve the problem: In AccuSnap Settings dialog, to switch off Find Elements By: Interior of Filled Elements.
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Thanks for your responses Robert & Jan. Switching off AccuSnap settings box > Elements > Find Elements By: > Interior of Filled Elements has made no difference.
You're right - something has changed. With Locate Interiors set to Always, I can indeed tentative "drill" through objects to select the geometry I want - but it's so much more cumbersome than the v8i approach.
That partially solves my first problem, but it still doesn't allow me to rotate the view around a selected point. I have to switch off the layer showing the transparent box (assuming it's on it's own layer) before I can snap to exposed geometry to rotate a view about a point. This is seriously regressive to the way I work.
Max Voigt said:Switching off AccuSnap settings box > Elements > Find Elements By: > Interior of Filled Elements has made no difference.
It's weird, because with this setting switched off, AccuSnap identifies boxes inside transparent cube without any problem.
MicroStation CE U14, Windows 10, AMD Radeon RX5700.
Works both in Visible and Always modes and also both in Transparent and Illustration renderings.
Thanks again for your help, Jan.
Accusnap actually does find those boxes for me (as shown in your version), but without Accusnap; to draw a line from the corner of one of them I have to tentative snap multiple times before getting to the point I want (Locate Interior Always).I generally don't use Accusnap - I know the point I want to snap to and don't need an automated point finder.
For Rotate View (with Accusnap enabled or not enabled), it won't snap to anything inside the big transparent box - just its edges.
You've added your specs - could it be related to software/ hardware spec? (although I've tested on a lower spec laptop, with the same problems)
Microstation CE 10.14.00.109, Windows 10 Pro Build 18363, Quadro M4000
Max Voigt said:could it be related to software/ hardware spec?
It can be, but I do not think so.
I also tested the same design file on Surface Book 2 with Nvidia GTX 1050 (to try to use something else than AMD) and it works fine also.
Can it be a file-specific? The file from my example (it's a kind of temporary trash like file ;-) is attached.
Thanks for your sample file - the behavior is the same on yours as it is on mine (attached). It did cross my mind that my file (built in v8i) could be the problem, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Are you able to Rotate View Dynamic > Define First Point > tentative on any of the cubes inside the glass box (either of our two files)?
Try also to select the yellow line in my file, by directly clicking on it. It works in v8i, but not in CE.
select through transparency.dgn
everything works fine:
Well then I'm stumped (and no closer to moving to CONNECT). Even if yours is working the way it's supposed to, then it's a step backwards from v8i (having to iterate through options, when you clearly intend to select the yellow line).
Thanks for your perseverance anyway, much appreciated.
Max Voigt said:then it's a step backwards from v8i
Because my tests are done in Locate Interiors: Visible mode, I think it works exactly as expected: When "something" is selected, an outer box will be always first and internal elements will be next in the list.
Max Voigt said:Well then I'm stumped
I think the problem is Locate Interiors: Never mode, because when used, it blocks the interior elements selection. It seems that some primitive solution was used by programmers: Any selection inside an element's face is canceled, instead of to be analyzed further whether there is (not) anything more in the selected area.
I think Service Ticket should be created and it has to be analyzed as bug.