CE Update 16 - Luxology no longer available

Hi Martin - from this post; https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/215713/vue-is-now-the-default-microstation-rendering-solution/657224#657224 ... the takeaway is "we also retired Luxology". I don't know if it can still be called up within CE 16, but it doesn't seem so.

I tried a render of one of my old large v8i scenes, and of course many of the carefully crafted custom render settings are gone so there's no smooth transition from old projects to new. The expectation, I think, is that we only start with new projects in CE16.

By the way, my test took 7 minutes to produce a completely unpredictable result in CE16  (v8i did the same render in 2.5 minutes). This doesn't necessarily mean Vue is slow (or bad) - it's just that I've not set the project up to work with it.

Max

Martin Francis said:

and I can’t find where the old, slow but very good Luxology render is in Connect 16, any ideas ?

I recommend to start with New and Changed in MicroStation CONNECT Edition Update 16 chapter:

Note: The Luxology Render settings are now replaced by the advanced VUE Render 
Setup Manager. If you wish to use Luxology for your renders you will need a token
to enable it. Help content for Luxology is no longer available in MicroStation,
however, you may find help for some ancillary topics related to Luxology still
available in the help.

Regards,

  Jan

That's why i always talked : Bentley should work on they own , modern renderer ( like old before luxology but in modern way like lumion , d5, unreal, unity, twinmotion etc ) They should take a team and make some spectacular soft and can sell to others. How many times we need to change engine? And still in build or not working correctly. Now it looks the same : change engine, works few years with us to make it working better and if it works ok they change engine... Propably Vue works few years and goes away... I don't know why Bentley react so slow in today reality... For example dark mode / modern looking / i talked about few years ago with first dark mode Photoshop... Why so slow in GPU renders tech etc...

Check LumenRT - how you can compare quality with Lumion, d5 or Twinmotion for example ? From grass to sky... Still LumenRt renders looks like years ago... D5 render for example is small team, few clever guys without big budget but they works as big company. I dont know if buying Modo technology, than E-on tech, than .... is good way...maybe cheaper than few guys real working hard...? I have the impression that they bet on the wrong horse every time.

I never change Microstation for other software but i am frustrating about politics and changes we dont want... / Tasks and patended position mapping is good example /

But i am not a businessman. 

Btw is RPC still working?

Ps sorry for my english ;) 

martinezx said:

Bentley should work on they own , modern renderer

I think it happens now, because in the past, rendering engines were licensed (the exception is the original one), whereas e-on software is Bentley company now.

martinezx said:

Now it looks the same : change engine, works few years with us to make it working better and if it works ok they change engine...

I do not think so, because after many years the engine is developed by company owned by Bentley.

What I do not understand why this change has been implemented so late (e-on Software was acquired in 2015) and with extremely short transition period.

martinezx said:

maybe cheaper than few guys real working hard...?

Maybe it's about management decision, development priorities and also OPEX vs CAPEX? ;-)

martinezx said:

I have the impression that they bet on the wrong horse every time.

I disagree a bit. In my opinion the problem is that whereas Bentley are great in technology development (power platform, now iTwins...), they fail repeatedly to explain features and also long term vision to community and make it "a hype".

Now, when VUE is promoted, users are confused and the situation is really confusing:

• Luxology is not available anymore (and VUE seems to be not stable enough).
• What features (materials settings, tools like RPC) are supported by new VUE engine?
• What users should use: VUE, companion LumenRT or paid independent full LumentRT Pro?
• What are the differences, why to choose one over another?
• ...

In my opinion, the problem (for the most of users, which are not visualization gurus) is not the quality, but a lack of clear information, explanations and tutorials.

With regards,

  Jan