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&lt;td style="text-align:right;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Product:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;MicroStation&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td style="text-align:right;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Version:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;08.11.XX.XX&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td style="text-align:right;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Environment:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;N\A&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td style="text-align:right;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Area:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Text&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;General&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;h1&gt;Problem Description&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;When I fill in an empty Data Field&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;, its position will shift slightly to the right. This shift will vary based on the font used, and whether the horizontal justification is center or right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;h1&gt;Background&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;To reproduce this issue, you must be:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Sharing files between V8i (or later) and any previous version of V8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Using text elements with&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Center or right horizontal justification&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;An Enter Data Field at the end of the element that is at least partially empty&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Using specific RSC fonts (depends if and how the font defines its space character)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;This shift is caused by an intentional change in V8i that addressed other defects, and makes text act more consistently regardless of font type, element content, and transform.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="background:white;line-height:16.2pt;margin:0.25in 0in;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;In addition Center justification of Data Fields is not an exact science to begin with; &amp;#39;centering&amp;#39; is done with space characters instead of precisely measuring the glyphs and geometrically centering it. Compounding this is how RSC fonts implement space characters. The space character is optional in the definition of an RSC font. If the RSC font specifies a space character, all space characters will have the same width, and will actually give the best results. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="background:white;line-height:16.2pt;margin:0.25in 0in;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;However most of the RSC fonts, do not specify a space character. In this case MicroStation attempts to resolve by aesthetically making each space character the width of the most recent preceding non-space character. If none exist (e.g. leading spaces), the nominal width is used (based on the specified text size). This gives rise to the phenomenon that centering Data Fields will seem to vary based on the characters used (technically the last non-space character used). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="line-height:normal;margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;Steps to Resolve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpFirst" style="margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;If the data set does not actually have to be shared, either modify the existing data set during migration to V8i, or create a second data set and modify the elements.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;To modify the elements:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;a.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Open the file in V8i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;b.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Start the move tool&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;c.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Set the snap mode to Origin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;d.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Snap to the origin of the text element&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpLast" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;e.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Move it back to the physical location that should be the origin (e.g. center or right edge)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="line-height:106%;margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.75in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p style="margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;2.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Text nodes store their origin point, while text elements do not (it must be re-computed during every edit). Thus, promoting a text element to a text node can prevent shifts due to range computation differences across versions. It should be noted, however, that some Enter Data Field tools across various versions of MicroStation cannot operate on text nodes, so this may be unacceptable in your workflows.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;text-indent:0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;To promote a text element to a text node:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpFirst" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;a.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Open the file in any version of V8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;b.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Edit the text element, and add a second line of text (e.g. press &amp;lt;end&amp;gt;&amp;lt;enter&amp;gt;a)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;c.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Accept the changes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpLast" style="line-height:106%;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;d.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Edit the text a second time, and remove the second line; editing the text should only potentially promote an element to a node, but never revert a node to an element.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1&gt;See also&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1&gt;Other language sources&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;td style="text-align:right;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Original Author:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Carl Myhill&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;div style="font-size: 90%;"&gt;Tags: 08.11.09.459, text, GENERAL, MicroStation, SELECTsupport&lt;/div&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Filled data fields shift slightly to right</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/19715/filled-data-fields-shift-slightly-to-right/revision/1</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:05:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8f3f7bb3-5f52-4c8c-a0c8-58769ae8d41d</guid><dc:creator>Carl Myhill</dc:creator><comments>https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/19715/filled-data-fields-shift-slightly-to-right#comments</comments><description>Revision 1 posted to MicroStation Wiki by Carl Myhill on 3/3/2015 9:05:06 AM&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;td style="text-align:right;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Original Author:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Carl Myhill, Bentley Technical Support Group&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;h1&gt;Problem Description&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;When I fill in an empty Data Field&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;, its position will shift slightly to the right. This shift will vary based on the font used, and whether the horizontal justification is center or right.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;h1&gt;Background&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;To reproduce this issue, you must be:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpFirst" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;·&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Sharing files between V8i (or later) and any previous version of V8&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;·&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Using text elements with&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 1in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;o&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Center or right horizontal justification&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 1in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;o&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;An Enter Data Field at the end of the element that is at least partially empty&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpLast" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;·&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Using specific RSC fonts (depends if and how the font defines its space character)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;This shift is caused by an intentional change in V8i that addressed other defects, and makes text act more consistently regardless of font type, element content, and transform.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="background:white;margin:0.25in 0in;line-height:16.2pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;In addition Center justification of Data Fields is not an exact science to begin with; &amp;#39;centering&amp;#39; is done with space characters instead of precisely measuring the glyphs and geometrically centering it. Compounding this is how RSC fonts implement space characters. The space character is optional in the definition of an RSC font. If the RSC font specifies a space character, all space characters will have the same width, and will actually give the best results. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="background:white;margin:0.25in 0in;line-height:16.2pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;However most of the RSC fonts, do not specify a space character. In this case MicroStation attempts to resolve by aesthetically making each space character the width of the most recent preceding non-space character. If none exist (e.g. leading spaces), the nominal width is used (based on the specified text size). This gives rise to the phenomenon that centering Data Fields will seem to vary based on the characters used (technically the last non-space character used). &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;Steps to Resolve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpFirst" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;1.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;If the data set does not actually have to be shared, either modify the existing data set during migration to V8i, or create a second data set and modify the elements.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;To modify the elements:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;a.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Open the file in V8i&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;b.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Start the move tool&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;c.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Set the snap mode to Origin&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;d.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Snap to the origin of the text element&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpLast" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;e.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Move it back to the physical location that should be the origin (e.g. center or right edge)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;2.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Text nodes store their origin point, while text elements do not (it must be re-computed during every edit). Thus, promoting a text element to a text node can prevent shifts due to range computation differences across versions. It should be noted, however, that some Enter Data Field tools across various versions of MicroStation cannot operate on text nodes, so this may be unacceptable in your workflows.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;text-indent:0.5in;"&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;To promote a text element to a text node:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpFirst" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;a.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Open the file in any version of V8&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;b.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Edit the text element, and add a second line of text (e.g. press &amp;lt;end&amp;gt;&amp;lt;enter&amp;gt;a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;c.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Accept the changes&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="CxSpLast" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.75in;line-height:106%;text-indent:-0.25in;margin:0 0 .0001pt .5in;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;d.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;Edit the text a second time, and remove the second line; editing the text should only potentially promote an element to a node, but never revert a node to an element.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div style="font-size: 90%;"&gt;Tags: 08.11.09.459, text, GENERAL, MicroStation, SELECTsupport&lt;/div&gt;
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