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    • -Pipe and Vessel Stress Analysis - Wiki
      • -.Bentley AutoPIPE
        • +a. General Information about AutoPIPE
        • +b. NEW User Guide for AutoPIPE
        • +c. Technical Support - AutoPIPE
        • +d. Download - Install - Release Notes - AutoPIPE
        • +e. Features and Bugs in AutoPIPE
        • +f. License AutoPIPE -
        • +g. System Messages: Warnings, Errors, Crashed, Confirm, etc.. in AutoPIPE
        • h. QA&R program for AutoPIPE
        • i. Security
        • -❤︎ Support Solutions and FAQ's in AutoPIPE
          • +Batch Processing, ITS, and ATS using AutoPIPE
          • +File / Model Management using AutoPIPE
          • +General - AutoPIPE
          • +Graphics - AutoPIPE
          • +Grids (Input & Results) - AutoPIPE
          • -Import and Export - AutoPIPE
            • 01: What file formats can AutoPIPE Import/Export?
            • -02. Imported related issues in AutoPIPE
              • +02-01.a: Import AutoPIPE DAT model
              • +02-01.b: Issues with Importing *.NTL file into AutoPIPE
              • -02-02. AutoPIPE Translators
                • -ADLPipe Translator - AutoPIPE
                  • 01. AutoPIPE Powered by ADL PIPE
                  • 02. AutoPIPE's ADL PIPE Translator Limitations
                  • 03. ADLPipe to AutoPIPE Translator - Version and Features
                  • Q. ADL PIPE imported file crashes AutoPIPE
                  • Q. Pressing convert button displays message to search for 'ADLPipe to NTL Translator.MSI' file in AutoPIPE folder, why?
                • +PCF Translator Issues for AutoPIPE
                • +STRAIT Translator in AutoPIPE
              • +02-02.d Import ISM files into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.a1: Example 1 - After import, how to fix piping that are not all connected?
              • 02-03.a2: Example 2 - After import, how to fix piping that are not all connected?
              • +02-03.b: Import MS Excel or AutoCAD DWG / DXF into AutoPIPE?
              • 02-03.c: AutoDesk REVIT into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.d: Aveva E3D PSI (XML) into AutoPIPE import issues
              • 02-03.e.i: PXF Import : CADAP.MAP Options
              • +02-03.e: Troubleshooting - Import AutoPlant / OpenPLANT PXF file into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.f: Can AutoPIPE Import Bentley Microstation model information?
              • 02-03.f: Can AutoPIPE V8i Import / Export Bentley HAMMER loads?
              • +02-03.h: Import PlantSPACE model into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.i: Import ProStructures into AutoPIPE
              • +02-03.j: Insert> Model From Bentley SACS using PipeLink or ISM
              • +02-03.k: Insert> Model From STAAD Using PipeLink
              • 02-03.l: CAD To AutoPIPE Integration
              • 02-03.m: Import CIMSteel Integration Standards (CIS/2) or STP file information into AutoPIPE
              • +02-03.n: Import / Export caesar (cii) or Areva PDMS (cii) with AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.o: Import CAE Pipe or Kpipe into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.r: Import OpenBIM data exchange (IFC) information into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.s: Import Pipe Net into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.t: Import PDMS using I-Sketch, I-Run or Spoolgen into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.u: Import PTC Creo into AutoPIPE
              • 02-03.v: Can AutoPIPE Import SAP 2000 model file?
              • 02-03.w: Import TRIMBLE PIPEDESIGNER 3D into AutoPIPE
              • 04-001: While importing or copy paste into AutoPIPE model, the node numbers are renaming automatically. How to import / copy geometry without changing the node numbers?
            • +03. Exported related issues in AutoPIPE
          • +Libraries - AutoPIPE
          • +Loads and Load Sets - AutoPIPE
          • +Localization (Non-English Language) - AutoPIPE
          • +Modeling Approaches in AutoPIPE
          • +Modules (i.e. Flange Analysis, Spring Hanger Selection, Rotating Equip, TTA) in AutoPIPE
          • +Piping codes - AutoPIPE
          • +Post Processing - AutoPIPE
          • +Printing - AutoPIPE
          • +Reports - AutoPIPE
          • +Settings - AutoPIPE
          • +Stress Isometrics - AutoPIPE
          • +Technology Productivity Capabilities
      • +.Bentley AutoPIPE Vessel (powered by Microprotol)
      • +ADL PIPE
      • +Bentley AutoPIPE Nozzle
      • +Bentley PlantFLOW
      • +Bentley PULS
    • +AutoPIPE Brand Learning Resources
    • +Attend a live meeting with an AutoPIPE Analyst

     
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    01. AutoPIPE Powered by ADL PIPE

    Questions and answers about the difference between AutoPIPE and ADL PIPE

    1. What part of ADL PIPE is used by AutoPIPE? 

    Answer:

    ADL PIPE was acquired by Bentley in 2005 to provide a good solid ground with which to add a nuclear version of AutoPIPE. The was a perfect marriage of two programs, anyone who has used ADL PIPE knows that the graphical side was lacking but the calculations performed by ADL PIPE were used by industry since the 1969. The nuclear solution routines from ADL PIPE form AutoPIPE's Nuclear solution. 

    2. What are the major difference between the programs?

    Answer:

    • See the following: AutoPIPE's ADL PIPE Translator Limitations
    • AutoPIPE doesn't allow the Static Earthquake value to alter from one member to another, ADLPipe does.
    • AutoPIPE can only have one Gravity case, ADLPipe is unlimited and is also unlimited on the number of other load case, where as AutoPIPE has hard load case limits.
    • Some model combination methods are not supported by AutoPIPE.
    • AutoPIPE can only insert springs vertically, ADLPipe can have them in any direction.

    3. What should users do after importing a model from ADL PIPE into AutoPIPE?

    Answer:

    You should confirm the loadings have come over correctly and that the dead-weight result are the same.  Some analysis settings may be set by default in ADLPipe and AutoPIPE and these should be the same (i.e. Tool> Model Options> General, Edit, Results..).

    4. Why are my results different in AutoPIPE from ADL PIPE?

    Answer: 

    In most common cause, the translated AutoPIPE model is different from the ADL PIPE model (confirm the model listing are exactly the same in both programs). In addition, user's should consider all the information mentioned in the following document that was installed with the ADL PIPE translator:

    C:\ Bentley\ AutoPIPE Translators\ ADLPipe Translator\ ADLPipe to AutoPIPE Translator User Reference.pdf 

    Also be sure to check for different number of mass points used in each model are the same, this this will affect the sustained and seismic results. May need to remove the remove the auto discretisation and compare again.

     5. Has Bentley performed any benchmark calculations to check the AutoPipe values compared to the ADL values?"

    Answer: 

    As mentioned above, the ADLPipe solver is what we use to drive the nuclear solution.  Bentley CAE development team did do some benchmarking between the two products and in the end NRC made us validate AutoPIPE Nuclear separately as essentially the two solutions were the same.  There are some standard NRC and ASME verification examples that have been carried out also by both products.

    The AutoPIPE Acceptance Test Set (ATS) has some test models to use to verify the installation.  Also, AutoPIPE QA&R subscribers have access to more information about the program than normally available.

    With regard to importing ADLPipe models; this can be done using the ADLPipe translator that is an option to be installed with AutoPIPE V8i Standard, Advanced, or Nuclear.  There are some limitations and omissions, but on the whole around 95% translation should be possible.  There are going to be differences in the results; the translation process makes certain assumptions and the two applications do many things in slightly different ways including presenting the results.

    6. Can AutoPIPE import a ADL PIPE ASME NB Class 1 and B31.7 1969 models and how well does it work?

    Answer:

    Please see the user manual for ADLPipe to AutoPIPE Translator in the trasnlator folder created when the application was installed. This translator overall does a good job of bringing most of the geometry and loading definitions into AutoPIPE for further refinement and processing. Like any translator, there are some limitations and assumptions made considering the complexity of translation, inherent differences between 2 different programs. 

    Both ADLPipe to AutoPIPE Translator and AutoPIPE program support ASME NB Class 1 code but don't support B31.7 1969. If not mistaken B31.7 code was replaced by ASME Code Section III.

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