Official CONNECT Edition SDK

Apologies if I missed an announcement somewhere, but where is the SDK?

I thought at first it was going to be bundled in the installer, but after downloading the new v10 build of MicroStation, it is nowhere to be found.

What is the best practice here for developers? Do we either:

  1. Run the latest build (v10.00.00.25) with the last SDK beta (v8.21.05.35); or
  2. Run the last beta build (v08.21.05.36) with the last SDK beta (v8.21.05.35)

Now that CONNECT has been released, I imagine a lot of users will be asking when we release our apps for it.

Cheers.

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  • Hi Piers,

    Unknown said:
    Apologies if I missed an announcement somewhere, but where is the SDK?

    I suppose Bob Hook will answer it, but in my opinion it's common rule (so nearly the standard) that SDK is always available with some delay (days or weeks). As far as I remember there was no exception both for CONNECT Edition testing and MicroStation V8i releases.

    Unknown said:
    I thought at first it was going to be bundled in the installer

    I see no reason for anything like this and such option has never been discussed or promised I guess.

    Unknown said:
    What is the best practice here for developers?

    Good question. Personally I will wait for the final SDK version now.

    Unknown said:
    I imagine a lot of users will be asking when we release our apps for it.

    I not ;-)  What my users told me now they will continue (or even start only) with CONNECT Edition evaluation and will start to test how to deploy MicroStation, how to migrate own cusotmization to new workspace settings and especially how to maintain both V8i and CE in parallel. I have not received any request to publish migrated applications immediately.

    With regards,

     Jan

  • Hi Jan,

    [PP] I thought at first it was going to be bundled in the installer

    [JS] I see no reason for anything like this and such option has never been discussed or promised I guess.

    IIRC, there was a previous release of MS where the MDL headers were bundled as part of the MicroStation installer, and the SDK only included the example MDLs. I forget which version it was though (I started developing MDLs back in v5 and memory is hazy).

    [PP] I imagine a lot of users will be asking when we release our apps for it.

    [JS] I not ;-)  What my users told me now they will continue (or even start only) with CONNECT Edition evaluation and will start to test how to deploy MicroStation, how to migrate own cusotmization to new workspace settings and especially how to maintain both V8i and CE in parallel. I have not received any request to publish migrated applications immediately.


    It will be a while before any large org's move to CE, before they do that they have to ensure all of their software will work with it. So prior to migration they start asking if/when their add-ons will support it (e.g. next month / next year / never). So I agree that customers will not be wanting software working with CE now, but they are already asking *when* it will be ready. I imagine I will need about 3 months to rewrite all of the old MDL code, barring any unforeseen dramas.

    Anyway, I don't want to go to the hassle of uninstalling the current release of CE, installing the older beta and SDK, starting work and then finding out the release SDK comes out the next day, as this wastes my time. Knowing when the SDK will come out can save me this bother, and anyone else in my position.

    --
    Piers Porter
    Altiva Software

  • Unknown said:

    IIRC, there was a previous release of MS where the MDL headers were bundled as part of the MicroStation installer, and the SDK only included the example MDLs. I forget which version it was though (I started developing MDLs back in v5 and memory is hazy).

    Yes, good memory. Previous to the V8 generation, the compilers, header files, linkers, example source code, etc. were included with MicroStation. During the early stages of the V8 generation, we determined that uncoupling the SDK from the product was beneficial in a number of ways, so we moved those parts out of the product installation (starting with help files and examples, and then the rest of the development tools). Since then, we have not had any reason to recouple them and I do not recall there being any sort of mention of the possibility of that happening... even though I fully admit to not knowing everything that everyone says everytime :).

    Unknown said:


    I don't want to go to the hassle of uninstalling the current release of CE, installing the older beta and SDK, starting work and then finding out the release SDK comes out the next day, as this wastes my time. Knowing when the SDK will come out can save me this bother, and anyone else in my position.

    The commercial release of the MicroStation CONNECT Edition SDK is expected to happen shortly (an exact time is not determined as there are various variables that play part in the release process).

      

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  • Unknown said:

    IIRC, there was a previous release of MS where the MDL headers were bundled as part of the MicroStation installer, and the SDK only included the example MDLs. I forget which version it was though (I started developing MDLs back in v5 and memory is hazy).

    Yes, good memory. Previous to the V8 generation, the compilers, header files, linkers, example source code, etc. were included with MicroStation. During the early stages of the V8 generation, we determined that uncoupling the SDK from the product was beneficial in a number of ways, so we moved those parts out of the product installation (starting with help files and examples, and then the rest of the development tools). Since then, we have not had any reason to recouple them and I do not recall there being any sort of mention of the possibility of that happening... even though I fully admit to not knowing everything that everyone says everytime :).

    Unknown said:


    I don't want to go to the hassle of uninstalling the current release of CE, installing the older beta and SDK, starting work and then finding out the release SDK comes out the next day, as this wastes my time. Knowing when the SDK will come out can save me this bother, and anyone else in my position.

    The commercial release of the MicroStation CONNECT Edition SDK is expected to happen shortly (an exact time is not determined as there are various variables that play part in the release process).

      

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