V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Jan Šlegr — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:50:24 GMT

[quote userid="842517" url="~/products/programming/microstation_programming/f/microstation-programming---forum/170712/v8i-view-attributes-settings-macro-for-2d-design-files/492238"]Imagine stepping into an organization and dealing...[/quote]

I do not have to imagine it, after 25 years with MicroStation I have seen plenty of "data quality" disasters ;-)

[quote userid="842517" url="~/products/programming/microstation_programming/f/microstation-programming---forum/170712/v8i-view-attributes-settings-macro-for-2d-design-files/492238"]...dealing with elements/objects from ACAD and/or Building Designer/TriForma, and on it goes.[/quote]

Add "great features" like different cells with same names, MicroStation fonts with same numbers spread over several .rsc files or qually named line styles nobodoy knows whether they are the same or not.

I agree, it's never ending fight. The only solution is to force people to accept standardization (dgnlib is just a tool, the standardization and data quality are more general concept covering wider area). Without data quality in mind from very early beginning, nothing can be enhanced and solved and such fight cannot be won.

Regards,

Jan

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Jan Šlegr — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:42:51 GMT

Hi Carl,

[quote userid="842517" url="~/products/programming/microstation_programming/f/microstation-programming---forum/170712/v8i-view-attributes-settings-macro-for-2d-design-files/492005"]The purpose of the other post was, again, stated in the heading: List of Keyins and VBA Strings for Design File Settings (in V8i).[/quote]

the format you used (list of key-ins) is a wiki style and it's not suitable for forum, because it's not question.

Because it's not possible to create wiki article (I guess a special access s required), in my opinion the best solution is to post own blog, which can be done by anybody. In such case there will be no complains (at least from my side ;-), because blog can be subjective, but at the same time it's also included in search, so it can be found by anybody easily.

With regards,

Jan

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Carl Kastner — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 21:51:27 GMT

Jan,

Thank you for the info/history.

Imagine stepping into an organization and dealing with thousands of design files where they do not use dgnlib files, no Cell/Text/Dimension Libraries, arrowheads are created with many small lines instead of fills, when once there were cells they are now dropped to elements, dealing with elements/objects from ACAD and/or Building Designer/TriForma, and on it goes.

And I am tasked with standardizing it all. Its a combination of: Oh, the horror and what a challenge!

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Jan Šlegr — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:31:06 GMT

Hi Carl,

[quote userid="842517" url="~/products/programming/microstation_programming/f/microstation-programming---forum/170712/v8i-view-attributes-settings-macro-for-2d-design-files/492004"]Thank you, that is good to know as we have not switched over.[/quote]

to don't MicroStation BASIC (and switch to VBA) has been recommended by Bentley in MicroStation documentation from (at least) V8 2004 Edition, so it's nearly 15 years ago! Surprisingly there are still many users that when they start to think about migration to CE, also realized they have still some MicroStation BASIC (and in CE useless) that should be removed and replaced by VBA years ago.

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Carl Kastner — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:11:45 GMT

< simply bad today>

Well, my bad then (not!) as the reader was informed in the post heading.

The purpose of the other post was, again, stated in the heading: List of Keyins and VBA Strings for Design File Settings (in V8i).

If a user performs a search for design file keyins/vba strings they, hopefully, would land on that post for one, some, or all of their needs as it is mostly all there in one post versus having to spend additional search time.

Kind of like: One post shopping. ;-)

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Carl Kastner — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:51:06 GMT

Thank you, that is good to know as we have not switched over.

Agreed.

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Carl Kastner — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:48:12 GMT

As the post heading stated this is a macro for V8i.
Some users still use macros in their Batch Process routines.

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Jan Šlegr — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:42:55 GMT

Hi Carl,

in addition to Mary's and Jon's comment about MicroStation BASIC (to provide any advice based on BASIC is simply bad today), I do nto quite understand what is a purpose and aim of your post (and also the previous one). They are not question, so they should be posted to wiki, not to forum, with a proper explanation.

Personally I do not understand why quite complicated script should be used when standard key-ins are available to change View Attributes. Moreover, in my opinion much better approach, when View Attributes should be set to a predefined configuration(s), it's to use Saved Views.

With regards,

Jan

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

Jon Summers — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:28:10 GMT

[quote userid="2436" url="~/products/programming/microstation_programming/f/microstation-programming---forum/170712/v8i-view-attributes-settings-macro-for-2d-design-files/491619"]I'd suggest figuring it out in VBA instead of MicroStation BASIC[/quote]

Also, MicroStation BASIC is absent from MicroStation CONNECT.

[quote userid="2436" url="~/products/programming/microstation_programming/f/microstation-programming---forum/170712/v8i-view-attributes-settings-macro-for-2d-design-files/491619"] any solutions programmed that way may not work for much longer[/quote]

VBA is the way to go!

RE: V8i View Attributes Settings Macro for 2D Design Files

MaryB — Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:58:58 GMT

Nice, but I'd suggest figuring it out in VBA instead of MicroStation BASIC. MSTN BASIC hasn't been supported for a number of years now. While it can still work, it's not as reliable, and any solutions programmed that way may not work for much longer.

This also might be better off posted to the Programming forum.