AreaAnnotator9.dgn
The attached DGN file has a single model. The model contains four shape elements. Each shape is annotated using text fields. Some text fields show Item Type property values; others show element properties such as area and perimeter.
The two green shapes are annotated each with a text node that contains several text fields including area, alternative area and perimeter. If you use MicroStation's modify element tool to change a green shape element you can see that all the element property text fields update themselves to show the shape's new metrics. That's the behaviour I expect.
The two brown shapes are annotated each with a cell that contains plain text elements and also several text fields including area and perimeter. If you use MicroStation's modify element tool to change a brown shape element you can see that the element property text fields do not all update themselves to show the shape's new metrics. That's not the behaviour I expect. I'm puzzled!
Note: This problem seems to be a bug in MicroStation CONNECT, as mentioned by Paul Connelly below. If I open the same DGN file with MicroStation V8i, the text fields in the cell update as expected.
Hi Jon
Had a play with this over lunch
In addition to your observations which I can replicate if you drop the complex status of your cell the values which are incorrect remain at their incorrect value until you modify the shape and then all the values are corrected.
HTH
Ian
currently using OBD 10.10.01.151
Ian Leighton said:I can replicate if you drop the complex status of your cell the values which are incorrect remain at their incorrect value until you modify the shape and then all the values are corrected
Thanks for testing, and your observation about dropping the cell!
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
Hi Jon,
I have tried to reproduce this, but it seems this works correct for me.Resizing any of the 4 shapes also updates the text fields.
Just to be exact, I was resizing the single shape elements (2 green and 2 brown), not the 2 brown shapes which are components of the cells.I was using Update 11 (10.11.00.36), did you test with the same build?
Best regards,
Artur
Just to help with this
I tested this yesterday using ABD U3 and again tested just now
From Jon's dgn file the room 101 and room 102 shapes when modified updates the area (m2) perimeter (m) and area (yd2) correctly
the room 103 shape when modified updates the area (m2) but most of the time does not update the alt area and perimeter values so you get incorrect alt area and perimeter values for the modified shape. If you modify it again you sometimes get the three readings to be all corrected and sometimes not.
I then modified the room 104 shape and again the area value being reported was correct but the perimeter was incorrect. I subsequently dropped the cell Jon had created and then modified the shape on room 104 and the incorrect values did not correct themselves, but as soon as I modified the shape the value of the area and perimeter corrected themselves to the correct values for the modified shape.
Artur Goldsweer said:it seems this works correct for me
But Paul Connelly acknowledges this to be a bug!
With CONNECT Update 11 only some of the element property text fields in the cell update when their host shape (the brown shape element) is modified. You may observe one or two fields change, but not all the fields.
With V8i all fields in that same DGN model update correctly.
Ian Leighton said:the room 103 shape when modified updates the area (m2) but most of the time does not update the alt area and perimeter values so you get incorrect alt area and perimeter values for the modified shape
Well observed! That's more or less what I see.
[20190627-RH] UPDATE. This issue is potentially related to the item below. A defect has been filed. We will ensure the defect has proper visibility to be addressed.
REFERENCESProduct Issue: [CE 11] Textfield in cell not updatedProgramming Issue: [CONNECT C++] TextField in Cell not UpdatingProduct Defect: 985212 filed
Has there been any progress on correcting this problem?Based on the information above this bug was reported for MicroStation CONNECT Update 11. I am currently running MicroStation CONNECT Update 15 and it appears the bug is still there. I have a cell that contains a Note. Inside the Note are two fields designed to display the X and Y coordinates of the location were the cell is placed in the drawing. Currently, when I place the cell the fields are not updated. In addition, I can save the file and reopen it and they are still not updated. The only way I can get it to update the fields is to modify the cell is some way such as moving it. At that point the fields will update.
Richard Baker II said:Has there been any progress on correcting this problem?
The bug that I reported was fixed, I think in Update 12. Certainly Update 14 and later work correctly for me.
Richard Baker II said:I have a cell that contains a Note. Inside the Note are two fields designed to display the X and Y coordinates of the location were the cell is placed in the drawing
That's a more complex case than that which I reported. Is the problem specific to a note inside a cell? If you drop the cell so the note is a free-floating element, do those fields update as you expect?
Initially after I drop the cell the information in the note did not updated; however, after I saved the file and opened it again they did get updated. So it appears that being inside a cell prevents the text fields inside the note from being updated.
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I isolated the cell in the library and uploaded it in case you want to try it.
The cell name is A - PI Coordinate (Right). I did not create the cell. I am just trying to use it.
Richard Baker II said:I isolated the cell in the library and uploaded
This looks like a problem with MicroStation itself, rather than the C++ API. I suggest that you raise a service request (SR) with Bentley Systems and submit your cell library as evidence.
Thanks for testing the cell. I will try submitting a service request and see what happens.
Update: I submitted the service request to Bentley and they have logged the problem as a defect in MicroStation CONNECT.This email refers to Service Request 7001310281, submitted on behalf of Black & Veatch. Description: Cell Fields do not update Product: MicroStation Product Area: Cells There has been a defect filed for this issue, defect #657767. Look for a fix in a future release.