What does this mean - "??È" when referring to ModelName?

Hi Viktor,

I agree with Volker that without knowing more, it's hard to guess. You do not follow the forum best practices, so it's not clear what product, version, API and language do you use.

In addition to these crucial information, I'd like to ask also about:

• Is there any issue visible in MicroStation GUI or it's solely API issue?
• What does it mean "elements are reporting ModelName"? Can you provide a code snippet?
• Is it specific to a particualr file, specific model...?
• Also, can you provide a file example? E.g. to delete everything and to keep just a few elements in the model and compress the rest?

With regards,

  Jan

Jan, I may be a chronic "forum best practices" violator.

But in reality, this was meant to be a generic question, to see if anyone has seen this behavior, surely that's a very unique symbol that may rattle some memory. Being general also limits everyone from blaming "connect" or "your drawing is messed up", or "you're not coding right". If it isn't a common issue, then sure I can share details and even provide the file if needed. 

Viktor_Kulik said:

But in reality, this was meant to be a generic question

In such case, the best practice is to specify explicitely it's generic question :-))))

... but my feeling is that it's not generic question.

Viktor_Kulik said:

to see if anyone has seen this behavior, surely that's a very unique symbol that may rattle some memory.

The discussion is a bit pointless, because you have not specified where you encounter the problem. And MicroStation GUI, native code, managed code and VBA are completely different and pretty separated worlds with own set of problems.

Also, you have not shared any code snippet, so how model name was retrieved is not clear.

With regards,

  Jan

This is in VBA and the file is opened using OpenDesignFileForProgram, then iterated through elements and ModelName is accessed via:

TextElement.ModelReference.Name

So for example where telem is the text element, I would do something like:

Dim modelname as String

modelname = telem.ModelReference.Name

Its also displayed this way in the Watches inspector.

Ok, now it become clearer.

Two another questions:

• In what software the files were created? In MicroStation or another Bentley solution or they are e.g. converted DWG files?
• Are the file names in English or another language and alphaber (Russian/Cyrilic, Greek/Alphabeta etc.) are used?

Maybe you discovered a bug in VBA implementation, but I am also thinking whether there can be any issue because of OpenDesignFileForProgram (because some limitations exists in this mode).

Regards,

  Jan

From what I know, the files were created in V8i SS3, and never been in AutoCad. This error does not show up if I scan the file with OpenDesignFile, but that's way too slow for what I need. This was not an issue in SS3, now it shows up on files from various clients.

From what I know, the files were created in V8i SS3, and never been in AutoCad. This error does not show up if I scan the file with OpenDesignFile, but that's way too slow for what I need. This was not an issue in SS3, now it shows up on files from various clients.

Viktor_Kulik said:

This error does not show up if I scan the file with OpenDesignFile

That's probably crucial information! Regardless of known limitations of "for program" mode, my assumption is that Model names should be always retrieved correctly and when you can confirm it works fine when the same code is used for the design files opened normally, the bug looks quite probably.

Maybe Artur Goldsweer can do some more testing?

Regards,

  Jan