After one full evening of research, I decided to post my nooby problem here. Basically, I just want to start a microstation project in Viz Studio 2013.
I had both include Microstation :
Into the main file, I added
#define winNT#include <MicroStation.API>BEGIN_BENTLEY_NAMESPACE
That's all, but compiler returns me many error (14), these are the 4 firsts :
Error 1 error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'size_type' c:\users\tom\bentley\microstation\mdl\include\memutilallocator.h 42 1 MdlTESTError 2 error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int c:\users\tom\bentley\microstation\mdl\include\memutilallocator.h 42 1 MdlTESTError 3 error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'difference_type' c:\users\tom\bentley\microstation\mdl\include\memutilallocator.h 43 1 MdlTESTError 4 error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int c:\users\tom\bentley\microstation\mdl\include\memutilallocator.h 43 1 MdlTEST
Anyway, I cannot do anything, it's always wrong somewhere into these files.
Of course I checked all http://www.la-solutions.co.uk/content/Publications-MDL.htm#ArticleIndexDevTools, thanks Jon, but I couldn't find a solution.
Could you see what's wrong ??
Thank you and have a nice day
Tom Laruve said: I just want to start a MicroStation project in Viz Studio 2013
When writing a native-code C/C++ application, use the right version of Viz Studio!
Tom Laruve said:#include <MicroStation.API>
No such object MicroStation.API! If it's the header file you want to include, then do this...
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
Yes of course, MicroStation.h
So I am probably using a wrong version, I will try with an old one.
Tom Laruve said:C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\Program\MicroStation
You may need to use Windows short file names (also known as DOS file names) that have no spaces. Read this tip:
Jon: I agree, but one thing is weird, I did a grep on the lib files, no one contain the string "mdlSystem_newDesignFile" isn't it wrong ?
If you do not mind, it might be a good idea to cover some basics (this is not meant to insult, it is mainly to make sure that these things have been done in the order they should be done in).
Here are some simple steps to compile the MyApp application for a straight, out-of-the-box, default installation (if you change any of the folder locations during the installation of the MicroStation SDK, you will need to use the folder structure you selected in some of the steps below):
Once you have done the above, again assuming defaults for everything, you should have an application that you can run in a MicroStation session.
Could you confirm that is working for you?
Tom Laruve said: I did a grep on the lib files ...
Using the file search tool of my preferrred text editor, I found this:
Searching for: mdlSystem_newDesignFIlemdlbltin.lib(475): mdlbltin.lib(1970): ^jmdlbltin.lib(21961): mdlbltin.lib(21962): mdlbltin.lib(21963): mdlbltin.lib(21964): Found 6 occurrence(s) in 1 file(s)
1) I have Visutal studio 2005 Express Edition
2) I have Microstation 08.05.02.70
3) I have the sdk downloaded from here www.bentley.com/.../MicroStation+SDK.htm
4) When I run "MicroStation Developer Shell" I have many errors, I fixed them by launching manually the script mstndevvars.bat with the correct argument.
5) Into a mdl example "basic", I can run bmake +dVS2005Dir=C:\... I have an error "LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'C:\PROGRA~2\Bentley\Program\mdlapps\basic.dll'"
I still cannot link my previous code, I keep continue to try
Thank you guys for your attention.
This could be the source to a most of your problems.
1. You really should use the full version of Visual Studio 2005. We did not test using the Express Edition, but given some of the differences we encountered when trying to use the 2008 full and Express versions, it would not surprise me one bit if that is part of the issue.
2. You are using MicroStation V8 2004 Edition (v08.05...) unless there is a specific need to use that (10 years old), we really recommend using the most current release of MicroStation V8i -- that is certainly going to make it easier to create native code applications.
3. The version of the SDK that you have is MicroStation V8i (v08.11.07). You really should use the same version series of MicroStation and MicroStation SDK -- the most recent for both is v08.11.09... there is a note on the page you reference that offers a significant hint regarding this:
NOTE: The MicroStation SDK requires MicroStation V8i to be installed to compile applications. It is recommended that you use the same 8-digit versions of MicroStation and MicroStation SDK. Refer to the MicroStation SDK ReadMe for more information.
4. That could be because of a combination of the above three things.
5. That could be because of a combination of the above four things.
In short, I suspect if get a full version of Visual Studio 2005 and the latest releases of MicroStation and MicroStation SDK (and follow the recipe in a previous reply), that most -- if not all -- of your issues will go away.
Tom Laruve said:
1) I have Visutal studio 2005 Express Edition
2) I have Microstation 08.05.02.70
Both important details you might have mentioned earlier! We assume you are using the current version of MicroStation unless you tell us otherwise. MicroStation v8.05 (MicroStation 2004 Edition) uses a still earlier version of Viz Studio.
Furthermore, the MicroStationAPI C++ API was not available for that version of MicroStation — you must use MDL.
Tom Laruve said: I have the sdk downloaded from here www.bentley.com/.../MicroStation+SDK.htm
I believe that link is for a later version of MicroStation. MicroStation V8.05, as far as I can remember, included the SDK. You must use the correct SDK for your version of MicroStation.
Ok, but where can I find the correct SDK ?
I saw into the Microstation's folder jmdl folder with some jar file, maybe I can use Java to open my DGN file, isn't it ?
Should I use the trial version ?
Tom Laruve said:Ok, but where can I find the correct SDK ?
The correct SDK for what version? If you will use MicroStation V8 2004 Edition, which in general is not recommended, because it's quite obsolete and not supported anymore, the whole SDK is, exactly as Jon mentioned, the part of the product installation. If you choose full installation and didn't modify the content anyhow, it should be there.
To build native application for V8 2004 Edition, you have to use Visual C/C++ 6.0 (so forget Visual Studio whatever number). Alternatively you can compile your code to binary pseudocode using MDL compilers. It's treated as obsolete, but the tools are still available in SDK and if you don't require extensive linking of external tools, it will solve the problem with the righ Microsoft compiler.
Or you can move to the current V8i version and in such case SDK can be downloaded from SELECTservices web and Visual Studio 2005 is the tool you should use.
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Jan, your answer is pretty clear, thank you.
My company uses this old version of Microstation, so I cannot change that.
But, my question is, if I build a native windows application with a most recent version. Does my application need this specific version of Microstation to run or it can run on any similar windows ?
Tom Laruve said:My company uses this version of Microstation [v8.05]
You must use Viz Studio 6 SP3
Tom Laruve said: If I build a native windows application with a most recent version
You must consult Microsoft sites, such as MSDN, to learn more about Viz Studio 6 and compatibility with Windows versions. You need to install the Microsoft Windows Platform SDK for your chosen version of Windows. Keep in mind that MicroStation V8.05 is not certified for use with the latest versions of Windows.
Tom Laruve said:Does my application need this specific version of MicroStation to run
Yes: we say 'use Viz Studio 6' for your application because that is the version of C++ used to build MicroStation V8.05. Later versions of MicroStation use later versions of Visual C++. An application built using Viz Studio 6 is likely to differ substantially from the same application built using, say, Viz Studio 2005 for MicroStation V8i.
Welcome to the Bentley Programming forums. As a tip, if you have (new) questions that are not directly related to the original (deviate), it is good practice to start a new Forum posts for each topic. This helps not only yourself find the final response/answer to a (single) particular question quickly, but all other forum members too.
Tom Laruve said:But, my question is, if I build a native windows application with a most recent version. Does my application need this specific version of Microstation to run or it can run on any similar windows ?
You should always match:
NOTE: The MDL SDK version can safely drift only within the last part of the Version Quad; designated by .xx in this example: 08.11.09.xx. If the version number varies in any of the first three parts of the Version Quad it is highly recommend that you:
Fine, I understand everything you are telling me.
I am a little bit desperate, my goal is really easy just open a DGN file, read the elements from it and close it, that's all
Could you advice me a way to do that, any language ?
Just I cannot use Visual C/C++ 6.0 because it doesn't exist anymore.
I saw JMDL, especially this link : www.ad.ntust.edu.tw/.../overview.html
But nothing about opening a file.
Again thanks for your answers
If you MUST use MicroStation V8 2004 Edition (i.e. v08.05...) and you are using that release of MicroStation on an operating system that it was certified for use on, your best bet is to use pure MDL, which is delivered with the product. This would not involve anything other than that -- no Visual Studio, no Java, etc. Just do a complete install and the "SDK" is included in the ..\mdl\... area.
BTW, the JMDL link you mention is for MicroStation/J... that has long since been removed from the product.
Tom Laruve said:I saw JMDL
Obsolete! Do not use! Read this article about MicroStation Development Languages
Tom Laruve said:I cannot use Visual C/C++ 6.0 because it doesn't exist anymore
Only if you take out an MSDN subscription.
Tom Laruve said:My goal is really easy just open a DGN file, read the elements from it and close it
MicroStation VBA is the answer. It's delivered with all versions of MicroStation V8. It works the same on all versions. It's independent of problems such as compiler and operating system versions.
Open a DGN file ...
Sub OpenDesignFile() Application.OpenDesignFile "C:\folder\Laruve.dgn"End Sub
Scan the active model...
Sub ScanActiveModel() Dim oElements As ElementEnumerator Dim oCriteria As New ElementScanCriteria oCriteria.ExcludeNonGraphical Set oElements = ActiveModelReference.Scan(oCriteria) Do While oElements.MoveNext Dim oElement As Element Set oElement = oElements.Current Debug.Print "Element ID " & _ DLongToString(oElement.ID) & _ " type " & CStr(oElement.Type) LoopEnd Sub
Whao, great for these answers, I will check that tonight.
Previously, I developed an windows application with that : http://dgnlib.maptools.org/
It's working perfectly, but only for DGN v7. And now we need DGN v8, and that library is not able to open it.
The main goal is to develop an application which (it could be perfect) runs on a computer without Microstation. The output is a txt file about the elements (text element for example). Imagine a dump into a human readable format.
Am I clear ?
Thanks for all your answers and time.
Tom Laruve said:It's working perfectly, but only for DGN v7. And now we need DGN v8, and that library is not able to open it.
Yes, V8 is completely different than V7. And V7 was based on ISFF format, which was made public, so it was possible to write libraries to write and read the format. DGN V8 is a proprietary Bentley format without public description (but you can ask for the format description) and much more complex than quite simple V7.
Tom Laruve said:The main goal is to develop an application which (it could be perfect) runs on a computer without Microstation.
It depends on your requirements. If you need 100% fidelity or at least to use some special features, the only way is to use MicroStation (or another application, which allow to create 3rd party applications) as an engine. But you can also try to use Teigha SDK from Open Design Alliance. It's developed outside Autodesk and Bentley, so there is no guarantee all features are supported, but it's the only independent alternative I know about.
Tom Laruve said:The main goal is to develop an application which runs on a computer without MicroStation
Something else you might have mentioned earlier. All the MicroStation development languages created by Bentley Systems assume and require that the MicroStation libraries are present and available. The simplest way to ensure that those conditions are met is to build a DLL.
None of the MicroStation development languages created by Bentley Systems can be used to create a stand-alone executable where MicroStation is not present.
In other words, we cannot help you any further on this MicroStation Programming Forum. Follow Jan's suggestion: contact the Open Design Alliance.