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    What is ProjectWise?

    Polk Draftsman
    Polk Draftsman over 3 years ago

    Since we are all working from home, we use VPN to work off of a remote server.  This is not ideal and many have to actually copy .dgn files to their workstation, make sure no one else opens the file, and then copy back to the server when done.  This is inherently dangerous.

    Is ProjectWise software that copies a file out of a server, locks it on the server, then copies back to the server when closed?  That is what we need to do.

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    • Phil Conard
      Offline Phil Conard Tue, Apr 14 2020 1:09 PM in reply to Polk Draftsman +1 verified
      ProjectWise is brand of many products and services. What's been described so far is ProjectWise Design Integration. It sounds like that's not what you are looking for. If you need a simple file sharing…
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    • Joe Rodriguez
      0 Offline Joe Rodriguez Tue, Mar 31 2020 1:51 PM

      Projectwise does exactly that, with the Projectwise Explorer Client installed on your computers, it manages the file transactions including the Microstaion workspace, models and REF files. It uses caching to help improve the transfer time. We use Projectwise extensively and with this new "work from home policy" it's helped tremendously. It does lock the file when in use and uses icons to represent file status. PW integrates with Office products as well so we manage all our project documents in PW

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    • Polk Draftsman
      0 Polk Draftsman Mon, Apr 13 2020 2:37 PM in reply to Joe Rodriguez

      I have tried watching the webinar sessions and in addition to being so far beyond my knowledge level, I can see that ProjectWise does so many things that our firm would not use.  We only need a way to work from home on .dgn files that copies a file out of a server, locks it on the server, then copies back to the server when closed.  That's it.  No document management, not retention policies.  Should I be looking for something other than ProjectWise to accomplish this?  I don't think I will be able to convince management that we need all of those other functions.  The learning curve seems too great.

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    • Kevin van Haaren
      0 Offline Kevin van Haaren Mon, Apr 13 2020 3:06 PM in reply to Polk Draftsman

      If you want to keep everything as you do it now using windows file shares to access files, I'm unaware of any product capable of properly locking a file on the windows share copying it locally while locking the verion on the server.

      ProjectWise uses it's own file storage, clients and database to accomplish this. Most products that do this use a similar method.

      You don't have to use all the functions ProjectWise uses. For example we don't use retention policies. However what you are looking for is the definition of a document management system. You want to manage server copies of files while allowing local work so you're managing documents.

       

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    • Luc Poulin
      0 Offline Luc Poulin Mon, Apr 13 2020 3:49 PM in reply to Polk Draftsman

      Hello Polk

      Not talking specific about PW but for any PDM CAD software, it start with the simple use of check out-in as you mention........

      Then suddenly you need to keep a record of a file ( reasons for this are multiple).  Many will argue..why keep a record of the file when i can keep a copy on my drive or on the network to retrieve later... Then you realize PW allow you to use version to keep record of your documents.

      Then the famous question, I retrieve my previous version from my storage,  but i need to reassemble my design because I have broken links.... then you realize that PW allow to keep track of you design configuration...

      Because each member keep record of their  design  with different name and those are exchange by email you king of get crazy about which file should be what.... then you realize that PW allow you to create a document code generator to make sure each document are properly name.

      You also realize that you need to know who own a document, which discipline the document belong, which area.... in some case which project the document is for..... the you need to keep note why a version was issue, and when, who approuve it and why. So you endup having and excel ledger to keep track of all the non visual data.........Then you realize all those metadata can be track and organize using interface... OK i give you that interface can be enhance but the basic is cover.

      Then you realize that you need to control who get access to the file because your studies are now being used for construction or worst as build because someone is to lazy to annotate... Then you  reqalize that access and control can be manage.

      Someone talk to you over the phone ( at least one is less lazy :-) ) and ask to make a modification..... you ask to be send a PDF so you can  create a task in outlook to not forget about it.....then you realize that you can have  live session of pdf review and keep track. You can assign  issue  for each annotation for tracking purpose...

      then...then...then...

      Etc.... etc....etc...

      All this because you only need to check-out/in a document to modify it and make sure none of you coworker will overwrite your design :-)

      Each time management tell you...... don't need this, keep note and wait few days for them to tell you ...can you retrieve this design we need to check something for a claim. You can tell management.... you don't need this :-)

      As for the learning curve, it will follow your needs, the more you wanted,the steeper the curve will be. As any user, any organization as a limit to what can be absorbed. Don't be afraid about learning curve, absorb what you can and everything else will sink at is own rhythm.

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    • Phil Conard
      +1 Offline Phil Conard Tue, Apr 14 2020 1:09 PM in reply to Polk Draftsman

      ProjectWise is brand of many products and services.  What's been described so far is ProjectWise Design Integration. It sounds like that's not what you are looking for. If you need a simple file sharing service with file locking, Project Share may be the answer. If you have the CONNECTION Passport entitlement as part of your MicroStation license, it is already included in your license. 

      https://www.bentley.com/en/products/product-line/project-delivery-software/projectwise-project-share

      https://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/sign-in_assistance_and_web_services/w/wiki/36906/working-with-files-and-folders

      If your are looking for a little more than what Project Share offers, but not as much as what ProjectWise Design Integration offers, than ProjectWise 365 may be your solution:
      https://www.bentley.com/en/products/product-line/project-delivery-software/projectwise-365



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    • Phil Conard
      +1 Offline Phil Conard Tue, Apr 14 2020 1:09 PM in reply to Polk Draftsman

      ProjectWise is brand of many products and services.  What's been described so far is ProjectWise Design Integration. It sounds like that's not what you are looking for. If you need a simple file sharing service with file locking, Project Share may be the answer. If you have the CONNECTION Passport entitlement as part of your MicroStation license, it is already included in your license. 

      https://www.bentley.com/en/products/product-line/project-delivery-software/projectwise-project-share

      https://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/sign-in_assistance_and_web_services/w/wiki/36906/working-with-files-and-folders

      If your are looking for a little more than what Project Share offers, but not as much as what ProjectWise Design Integration offers, than ProjectWise 365 may be your solution:
      https://www.bentley.com/en/products/product-line/project-delivery-software/projectwise-365



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